From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jun 23 13:47:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03158 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:47:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03134 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:47:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07085; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:47:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Amancio Hasty cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: option MROUTING In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:38:24 PDT." <199806232038.NAA23308@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:47:49 -0700 Message-ID: <7081.898634869@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I still don't see how an MBONE capable PC, suitably dumbed-down or not, is going to solve the user's basic MBONE connectivity issues (without which the whole point is really rather moot). Can you tell us all here how you intend to grapple with the latter problem, especially given that it's been a critical problem since the very beginning of the MBONE project? Without a clear strategy for getting people *on* the MBONE and making mbone routing something even Joe ISP can (and is willing to) do, I just can't see the client issues as all that pressing. It's kind of like arguing what color the telephone in your mountain cabin should be despite the fact that you're not going to see an actual phone line run all the way up there anytime in the forseeable future. :-) - Jordan > The question of mbone capable PC Unix systems keeps coming up on > the mbone mailing list. Linux is a little bit behind however it > is catching to FreeBSD in terms of mbone and audio /video conferencing > tools . The first step for wider MBONE deployment is for the PCs > whether they run Unix or WinXX is for them to be MBONE capable > by clueless users . The server side (mrouted) you are correct > in that the users usually have the sufficient expertise however > on the client side it is an entirely different matter. > > Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message