From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 21 18:42:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3D4883; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:42:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFB92C74; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E183EB51; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:42:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r9LIgask037804; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:42:36 GMT (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: John-Mark Gurney Subject: Re: always load aesni or load it when cpu supports it In-reply-to: <20131021183658.GY56872@funkthat.com> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <20131020070022.GP56872@funkthat.com> <423D921D-6CE5-49D9-BCED-AB14EB236800@grondar.org> <20131020161634.GQ56872@funkthat.com> <5264F074.4010607@freebsd.org> <20131021164034.GU56872@funkthat.com> <37693.1382379728@critter.freebsd.dk> <20131021182834.GX56872@funkthat.com> <37748.1382380333@critter.freebsd.dk> <20131021183658.GY56872@funkthat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:42:36 +0000 Message-ID: <37803.1382380956@critter.freebsd.dk> Cc: Andre Oppermann , Mark R V Murray , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:42:38 -0000 In message <20131021183658.GY56872@funkthat.com>, John-Mark Gurney writes: >Poul-Henning Kamp wrote this message on Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 18:32 +0000: >Clearly you didn't completely read my first email, so you're proposing >that we ALWAYS use software AES and never use AES-NI? At least in the >context of my email, that is what the above statement says... No, what I'm saying is that we should offer two APIs: One synchronous and one for IPSEC and any other async usage (personally I can't think of any but...) Those APIs should do whatever is fastest, for the request it gets. We do *not* want to pollute all crypto-using code with heuristics to guess which API to call for which request and when. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.