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Date:      Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:55:34 -0500
From:      mikea <mikea@mikea.ath.cx>
To:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Tracking -stable remotely/colocated
Message-ID:  <20010710105534.A5442@mikea.ath.cx>
In-Reply-To: <200107101450.KAA24867@world.std.com>; from kwc@world.std.com on Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 10:50:45AM -0400
References:  <200107100227.WAA25392@world.std.com> <200107101450.KAA24867@world.std.com>

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On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 10:50:45AM -0400, Kenneth W Cochran wrote:
> >Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:55:37 -0400
> >From: Bill Moran <wmoran@iowna.com>
> >To: Kenneth W Cochran <kwc@world.std.com>
> >CC: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> >Subject: Re: Tracking -stable remotely/colocated
> >
> >There is a way to accomplish this. It requires 2 computers.
> >The first is your server, the second is a terminal computer.
> >You never log into the actual server, but the terminal
> >computer is connected via serial line to the server to
> >act as a console. This way, you can reboot and everything
> >over an ssh connection and you see what's going on just as
> >if you were sitting right at it.
> 
> I guess I should've mentioned:  No serial-port access... :-/
> It appears that installation requires console-mode.  I guess
> now the question distills to "how to go to/from single-user
> mode remotely over ssh?"  Or, perhaps rephrasing, "how do I
> accomplish installworld & install-kernel Truly Safely(tm)?" :)

There is another way to do it, if you can build a machine to
which you have physical access and which is _IDENTICAL_ in 
every way to the headless, keyboardless machine out in the
co-lo. 

Build your OS on the easy-to-get-to machine, burn a bootable
CD containing the stuff you need, make damn sure it does what
you want it to (I specified identical, didn't I?), and mail it
to the co-lo facility with instructions to insert and boot it
when you call and tell them to. When you'ready, you log in and
shut the machine down hard and make the phone call. If it fails,
you go back to the old system, possibly by having the co-lo 
folks reboot with the previous CD.

If you don't need to do database stuff, you may be able to make
a system that will run at a high securelevel. It is conceivable
that you could run entirely off the CD. 

-- 
Mike Andrews
mikea@mikea.ath.cx
Tired old sysadmin since 1964

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