From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Thu Oct 4 02:12:19 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A1C10B8813 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 02:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kazuok@projectkitsune.com) Received: from sender-op-o12.zoho.com (sender-op-o12.zoho.com [135.84.80.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E904E7C6E5 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 02:12:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kazuok@projectkitsune.com) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1538619126; cv=none; d=zoho.com; s=zohoarc; b=Sf0vtFyGWgfRIavv79znQbx1SiAsIoRh2Hs808JJ/zd+sMYSk/m/5pShy2nceNbkRzGa0y2/CH/26ZkK2o7CNUa8+fGcVR2RrGKODpIxaI6TC/KexetcS+5e4H6bENpKyhp5M7ozXOTtUdNORz8llBeey4DqgvsZvCYBT0kav7I= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zoho.com; s=zohoarc; t=1538619126; h=Content-Type:Date:From:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:To:ARC-Authentication-Results; bh=8KgghbS2Whp7tBeNHkdX03R179v/RB+c0AhJ4/hFRjE=; b=Hiv5lGe7kznmCliUXGHbkEl3Q7OqyEa8OjCpsBW9sf/D+KI7FJ6wKVfTGUix/8Bl25f/0bUh0adUi4tnqxkA97QP8jji1kJCD3oBYceX+zdJxSruYp78Rk2fBRjvQ2Ra2K1Z57XCoKpt9VjdTrRgK6yfkVL0xVdlDUg9Fgni6Wo= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zoho.com; dkim=pass header.i=projectkitsune.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=kazuok@projectkitsune.com; dmarc=pass header.from= header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1538619126; s=zmail; d=projectkitsune.com; i=kazuok@projectkitsune.com; h=Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type; l=2723; bh=8KgghbS2Whp7tBeNHkdX03R179v/RB+c0AhJ4/hFRjE=; b=Zck+QmvChWRDPqRtvXA3uDlmJnoiRurxtktYOMEnPcirFyRopi3MjAoZF4EBAW7F x/E2PV5BGKz0XjFIJ+TdhZ5WVy1fMuEvo2opmXeKWNGS1Os3xTz3F6eKP62HDorgn1A ACVf0683cmot3S0bzMzV+pD0HUR0Zig1pX3ZaKOg= Received: from yagyu.local.mail (d-24-153-60-36.cpe.metrocast.net [24.153.60.36]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 153861912619011.501977892609716; Wed, 3 Oct 2018 19:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 22:12:21 -0400 From: Kazuo Kuroi To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: IBM POWER 720 (POWER 7) X-Mailer: Airmail (506) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ZohoMailClient: External Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 02:12:19 -0000 Greetings, I=E2=80=99ve a working POWER 7 box over here I=E2=80=99d like to either t= ry running =46reeBSD on bare metal or in an LPAR. 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I=E2=80=99ve signed up for the list but have not gotten confirmation= yet, so to ensure I get this please CC me if you are responding to this=21 From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Thu Oct 4 02:02:54 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E5A10B7C35 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 02:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic309-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic309-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.184.148]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F4FD7BDA2 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 02:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: xoJLTVkVM1nDRwxFd7ZTp3HJ7iUx9U_SC4Gccr2Qhu8cN.wI.FQaJ0RenN6no9E uFIHhBsXPVScPFoUxqiJmNr5HlnYon8yL1zqAM5FLpJ5rrWdZWdMdVs5FsYFNIVBTrS.NrBGpP1d TSUDGxUX0QiUWzjSqmQCO2HOYYdhGiSU7_zWvuLMFiNth_YXZkQoE18MUMYYRnAOm1jZNos8Fwuo TL.Ly_TPgQlap3dy6COvPHYPI9rQDSVTKKWgbA8rbrRq22tQ3faUIiU.UyPRdohU9.mW4NCy.M1n lR4yq_a.hPmBI2NaW4wZU5tD5.Kx7r7lY6UNhcyT0FVt9HE.01cVM7h00W3Dzyh_paPokayAIvRX JUut2ar1xojQXDa2_i35EW8uWodD59dpL5gUOR5FhA3Se0pojxibxyin_UnzobUNmlOrW7x36Q03 1HhsCjYmmKMJnqHwK24KMbgdgmZUBv1SsExHqhEfodIGa27Ce4dc0wCqj34t.T8_X91D8xTGbnNt tFsesg2zxR_ZN2KCZH6BJv.fvdDJxh.8Gf3WgkE71bIhhXqVQIomgLvRmorqJI1zNKOoU71wOpsx 5WEnd8qWCckxGNrXcG9oqSE_6EQUe5VrOVZZ9MuDbp2cKAkA9tkFLOyf.JikCuzodgaNLK0dml5Y RJo3tjVJsw3PFbglunasF9Q.zTPISLqR6ko0TRsaa42PlFjN8rdNKEa.Y3d0S7vH4RSJzMARxbjS D3wfMT4YbgxXf9RX1QBHZjh1QCvqU6TDFJUzgQPg.FGjGxwjOBSez205xLqmfSAEJ7YnAxcsnja3 SXd4sKIUo74AJ.XD1HV94M3IgoLi9mRoQoPEgYu1hkHctRuWEj6M8Co1ZECqGAQudogw.dbTqSv1 B9tHECHuLpdVgKwux8YdOwW7WSNV8pjOIgrHqY6QHAXWjFQbqvTSuYT7aPOCpQxDM6MYH3BLXnOT ODNdl59c.HfzNmUKLJ6jxqXdkqwo6K7DSbKx_Sj4wJWK3ipBrGYp8NEcISE.B0qPmNo8P0OmErin 0rycmCZzgpSzLgzFZ22V1.uPY9qrpzB.x Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic309.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 02:02:46 +0000 Received: from c-76-115-7-162.hsd1.or.comcast.net (EHLO [192.168.1.101]) ([76.115.7.162]) by smtp417.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID dd21f0b530123fca2c83e155cb3d9a39 for ; Thu, 04 Oct 2018 02:02:42 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 19:02:41 -0700 References: <93B37DB3-331A-4C94-BF1E-BFDC5D066A53@yahoo.com> To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML In-Reply-To: <93B37DB3-331A-4C94-BF1E-BFDC5D066A53@yahoo.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 02:02:54 -0000 On 2018-Oct-3, at 6:27 PM, Mark Millard wrote: > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2018-October/019167.html > > talks about removing 10Mbit/100Mbit ethernet drivers. This is not an > objection to the proposal, just an FYI. > > As I remember all the PowerMac/PowerBook/iMac/iBook G3's did not have 1GBit > Ethernet built-in: just 10Mbit and 100Mbit. Also the earliest G4's did not > (e.g., AGP's and 350 MHz PCI), including the PowerPC Mac-mini's. (All the > G5's had 1Gbit Ethernet as I remember.) > > I'm not sure which FreeBSD drivers covered the various examples of > lacking 1Gbit Ethernet. The proposal may be eliminating built-in-ethernet > support for (some of) the oldest of the Apple PowerPC machines for all I > know. I was wrong about the G5's: 3 early iMac G5 models do not have 1Gbit Ethernet. https://everymac.com/systems/by_capability/macs-with-ethernet.html lists by "Ethernet Capabilities" (actually sub-sorted by the capability). The list shows about 112 models with built-in Ethernet but without 1Gbit Ethernet. All are PowerPC based. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)