From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 03:06:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04591065670 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:06:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [64.81.218.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC4A8FC1B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 85558 invoked by uid 1008); 28 Oct 2008 04:09:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 28 Oct 2008 04:09:55 -0000 Message-ID: <490681C6.3030402@el.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:06:46 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <490676CC.2060101@el.net> <20081028024502.GB37131@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081028024502.GB37131@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: almost OT os x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:06:48 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:19:56PM -0400, kalin m wrote: > >> this is a bit OT but since bsd and os x have enough in common in the >> core some people here might have dealt with an os x server before.. >> >> ok. here is the problem. i have this os x server put on my lap to >> administer and there are some really weired things happening. >> >> the machine has 2 inet interfaces - 2 cards. one of them - en0 (network >> A) - is wired to 192.168.x.x and the other - en1 (network B) - has an >> external ip which is not on the same subnet (network) the 192.168.x.x >> belongs to. so far so good. >> >> theoretically the en1 (network B) card should be accessible through the >> external ip no matter where you a coming from.... >> >> what happens is that if somebody on network A (of en0) tries to access >> the machine via 192.168.x.x - it works. but if that somebody wants >> access that machine via the external ip on network B (en1), like they >> would access any other external IP - they can not. this is weired >> because they can access any other machine on B . now me being on the >> network B i can access the machine via the external IP which is also on >> B, but, and this is the weirdest, i can not access it from outside >> either A or B with that same IP (?!?). but i can access any other >> machine on B from outside either subnet.... >> > > What you're describing sounds like a network loopback problem (at least > this is what the Linux folks refer to it as). > > I would recommend you re-post this question to freebsd-net, as someone > there can explain to you what's happening in detail, why it happens, and > how to solve it effectively. > ok. will try there. thanks.... > Also, keep in mind that the "FreeBSD and OS X have enough in common" > concept is a horrible one -- they do have some pieces in common, but > OS X really *is* quite a different beast in numerous respects. Apple, > sincerely and honestly, has tinkered with all sorts of pieces. Please > keep that in mind. :-) > > ok too. i kinda used that as an excuse to post here cause nobody over there - on some os x lists and forums - was trying to help. and having found a lot of solutions on this list as a long time freebsd user i though i'd give it a shot.... thanks....