Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 14:52:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com> To: Chuck Robey <chuckr@mat.net> Cc: Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>, Wayne Cuddy <wayne@crb-web.com>, FreeBSD Hackers List <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: what is devfs? Message-ID: <199909192152.OAA75273@apollo.backplane.com> References: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9909191725000.3586-100000@picnic.mat.net>
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:On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Julian Elischer wrote:
:
:> DEVFS itself works fine however a subsystem it required to be a useful
:> abstraction was vandalised and stripped out by some people who "didn't get
:> it" and it has not yet been replaced by equivalent code.
:
:It seems more correct (to me) to state that there was a furious
:disagreement over whether or not to allow some memory of file permissions
:in devfs. Since there was never any agreement, DEVFS has smoldered. I
:think there's general agreement it would be a good thing to have, but that
:argument over how to keep user configurations must be handled.
:
:Saying it was dumped by people who "didn't get it" isn't quite correct,
:just people who didn't agree with your viewpoint on permissions. It
:wasn't only your viewpoint, I know there were many other highly qualified
:folks who agreed with you, but there wasn't much spirit of compromise
:evinced.
:
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:Chuck Robey | Interests include C programming, Electronics,
:213 Lakeside Dr. Apt. T-1 | communications, and signal processing.
Well, I tried using it months ago but it crashed the machine a lot :-)
Those bugs are supposedly fixed now, right? Can I go back to using it?
It seems to me that we have to be able to change ownership/modes for
DEVFS devices to deal with tty's and pty's properly. Are people arguing
over that or are people arguing over whether the changes should be
persistent or not? Personally I don't care if they aren't persistent,
it's a simple matter to set things up in rc.local.
I really want to be able to use DEVFS for my diskless startup code. Right
now I have to wave my hands and do some magic to make /dev work right
for diskless BOOTP startups.
-Matt
Matthew Dillon
<dillon@backplane.com>
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