From owner-freebsd-security Sat Sep 8 11:37: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4587B37B40A for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2001 11:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (relay2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.1]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3-2) with ESMTP id f88Iavc02123; Sat, 8 Sep 2001 20:36:57 +0200 (MEST) Received: from kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (root@kawoserv.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.180.1]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3/5) with ESMTP id f88Iavu02119; Sat, 8 Sep 2001 20:36:57 +0200 (MEST) Received: from fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (root@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.181.148]) by kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA27167; Sat, 8 Sep 2001 20:36:55 +0200 Received: (from alex@localhost) by fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f88Ib3e54546; Sat, 8 Sep 2001 20:37:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 20:37:02 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: D J Hawkey Jr Cc: deepak@ai.net, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel-loadable Root Kits Message-ID: <20010908203702.A54535@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> References: <200109081052.f88AqRG30016@sheol.localdomain> <20010908141700.A53738@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> <20010908072542.A57605@sheol.localdomain> <20010908143231.A53801@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> <20010908074445.A77252@sheol.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010908074445.A77252@sheol.localdomain>; from hawkeyd@visi.com on Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 07:44:45AM -0500 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake D J Hawkey Jr (hawkeyd@visi.com): > > > > This still lets you load own kernel modules. > > > Not if you blow away the /modules directory (note that I haven't tried > > > this). > > /me hands Dave a decent C compiler and some C h0h0magic. > I didn't write "build the kernel without it". Yes, I know. But you can compile as many kld's as you want. > As I wrote, I hadn't tried it. I take it one cannot remove that tree, > even after seeing that the kernel doesn't need it? I'm meaning run-time > here, not build-time. Of course you can. Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message