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Date:      Sat, 16 Nov 2024 15:44:53 +0100
From:      tuexen@freebsd.org
To:        Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Tom Jones <thj@freebsd.org>, freebsd-riscv@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Help wanted improving Rust support for RISC-V
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> On 16. Nov 2024, at 15:26, Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org> wrote:
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> On Sat, Nov 16, 2024, 2:21=E2=80=AFAM Tom Jones <thj@freebsd.org> =
wrote:
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> On Fri, Nov 15, 2024, at 23:47, Alan Somers wrote:
>> I want to improve the state of Rust on FreeBSD in general, and RISC-V
>> in particular.  My plan is:
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>> * Assemble a corpus of crates heavy on OS stuff (like Nix and Tokio)
>> and ensure that their tests pass on Riscv FreeBSD.
>> * Update libc's ABI to FreeBSD 12, finally eliminating the need for
>> COMPAT_11 on riscv to run Rust programs.
>> * Ensure that the corpus of crates still passes their tests.
>> * Convince the libc maintainers to use the FreeBSD 12 ABI, for riscv =
only.
>> * After a full Rust release cycle (at least 6 weeks), and maybe two,
>> if there are no reports of breakage, and if Poudriere looks good, use
>> that as justification to raise libc's ABI for all architectures.
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>> But in order to do any of this, I need access to riscv hardware.  A
>> virtual instance at Scaleway[^1][^2] would be ideal, but I don't know
>> if FreeBSD can run there.  Has anybody tried it?  Failing that, I
>> would need to either acquire some hardware myself, or borrow access =
to
>> somebody else's.  Or, convince some other developer to do the work
>> himself.  But I won't be able to help very much if I don't have =
direct
>> access.
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>> Can anybody on this list help me get some access?
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> I can=E2=80=99t help with scaleway, it sounds like an interesting =
choice.
Hi Alan,
neither can I... Depending on the resources you are willing to spend,
=
https://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/SiFive/HF105-001?qs=3DImq1NPwxi75JBw6u=
lD0quQ%3D%3D
might be an option.

Best regards
Michael
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> I have no idea of the current state of easily and affordable available =
hardware. The visonfive 2 might be a good choice, there has been a lot =
of work in the year since I last tried it.=20
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> https://adventurist.me/posts/00315
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> It=E2=80=99s probably still the easiest to get hold of if a little =
underwhelming.=20
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> You don=E2=80=99t mention qemu, is there some reason you can=E2=80=99t =
start there?
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> - Tom
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> I haven't had good luck with using qemu-user-static to emulate armv7.




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