From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Feb 4 17:58:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05287 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 17:58:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from inet-user-gw-1.us.oracle.com (inet-user-gw-1.us.oracle.com [192.86.155.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05230 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 17:57:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ACHOWDHU.IN.ORACLE.COM.ofcmail@in.oracle.com) Received: from insun023 (insun023.in.oracle.com [152.69.168.23]) by inet-user-gw-1.us.oracle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA00832 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 17:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by insun023 (SMI-8.6/37.8) id UAA16916; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 20:50:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199802050150.UAA16916@insun023> Date: 05 Feb 98 07:42:02 +0530 From: "Atish" To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Auto-reply: Re: kirk's soft-update integration.. Reply-to: ACHOWDHU.IN.ORACLE.COM.ofcmail@in.oracle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Oracle InterOffice (version 4.1.1.3.40) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_ORCL_2330801_0_0" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe hackers" --=_ORCL_2330801_0_0 Content-Transfer-Encoding:quoted-printable Content-Type:text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, I am on leave till mid Feb'98. Will try to get back to you as soon as possible. -regards Atish #..........................................................................#= >From : Atish Datta Chowdhury Oracle Software Development Centre India Development Centre 150 Embassy Point Bangalore 560001 Telephone: (088) 2256099 Extn:496/atish e-mail: achowdhu@in.oracle.com #..........................................................................#= --=_ORCL_2330801_0_0 Content-Type:message/rfc822 Date: 05 Feb 98 07:19:08 From:Sean Eric Fagan To:jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject:Re: kirk's soft-update integration.. Cc:hackers@freebsd.org Reply-to:INUNIX2.IN.ORACLE.COM:hackers@freebsd.org Received:from inet16.us.oracle.com by insun023 with ESMTP (SMI-8.6/37.8) id UAA16904; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 20:44:14 -0500 Received:from ns3.harborcom.net (ns3.harborcom.net [206.158.4.14]) by inet16.us.oracle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA14598; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 17:51:22 -0800 (PST) Received:from hub.freebsd.org [204.216.27.18] by ns3.harborcom.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0y0GSX-0004Oa-00; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 20:50:33 -0500 Received:from localhost (daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA03698; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 17:51:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received:by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 4 Feb 1998 17:50:06 -0800 Received:(from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03253 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 17:49:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received:from kithrup.com (kithrup.com [205.179.156.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03155 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 17:49:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sef@kithrup.com) Received:(from sef@localhost) by kithrup.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA23069; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 17:49:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sef) Message-Id:<199802050149.RAA23069@kithrup.com> In-Reply-To:<240.886636132.kithrup.freebsd.hackers@gringo.cdrom.com> References:Your message of "Wed, 04 Feb 1998 10:31:39 PST." <34D8B40B.41C67EA6@whistle.com> Organization:Kithrup Enterprises, Ltd. Sender:owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop:FreeBSD.ORG X-To-Unsubscribe:mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe hackers" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding:quoted-printable Content-Type:text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In article <240.886636132.kithrup.freebsd.hackers@gringo.cdrom.com> you write: >Ummm. I still completely fail to see why OpenBSD was able to >integrate all the hooks AND make the two "encumbered" (sorry >to use that word ;) files available on their web site without >any such hoop-jumping. Because, as long as the source is distributed, nothing else need be done. Guess what, this is exactly like the GPL! Only not the GPL. If you read the fourth clause, it requires, like the GPL, that the entire program's source be included, although it is much more ambiguous than the GPL, and that may be Kirk's intent. >As amancio says, why can't we just ftp the files from >someplace? You can. Go ahead. No problem. You can even put it on a CD-ROM. No sweat= =2E But if someone wants to make a product that does not give source code to the customer, they need a license from Kirk. Of course, if you do include it in the default system, I'll assume that's a sign that GPL'd code can also be included in the default system. --=_ORCL_2330801_0_0--