From owner-freebsd-chat Thu May 16 11:34:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E8337B401; Thu, 16 May 2002 11:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool0236.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.198.236] helo=mindspring.com) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 178Q4s-00038w-00; Thu, 16 May 2002 11:34:14 -0700 Message-ID: <3CE3FB86.62AAE555@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:33:42 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." , Matthias Buelow , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MacOS X , FreeBSD, UNIX and kleenex References: <200205161409.HAA06888@eskimo.com> <20020516143155.GA2094@reiher.informatik.uni-wuerzburg> <060c01c1fcf8$7082e500$3dec910c@daleco> <3CE3F641.4E990CB3@mindspring.com> <20020516202441.I79514@lpt.ens.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > > > Oh, yes, I can already see the almighty The Open Group sue > > > > Apple Computers, Inc. for trademark abuse. *laughs* > > > > Apple can do this because they have a UNIX license, which permits > > them to use the trademark like this. > > That's what I seem to remember from a year or so ago, but I can't find > Apple listed on any of the "Open Branded Products" pages at > http://www.opengroup.org > The Unix 98 registered products are from Compaq, IBM, NCR, SUN. There > are also Unix98 server, Unix98 workstation, and Unix95 registered > products -- the last includes HP, SGI, FSC and Caldera, but no Apple. > See http://www.opengroup.org/regproducts/complist.htm (the > Unix93 link doesn't work). A search on their on-site search engine > for MacOS gives only one, irrelevant hit. You are looking in the wrong place. Look in the section defining the rules for the use of the trademark. All they have to do is include some of the UNIX code anywhere in the product, and it's UNIX-derived and therefore permitted to use the trademark on it. This was a grandfather clause to prevent failure to pass the certification process resulting in loss of use of the trademark. It's an acknowledgement that what people were paying for was not the source code, but the right to use the trademark. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message