From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 22 18:12:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08CF5555; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 18:12:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:8006::18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D68298CA; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 18:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ryuu.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WRQPJ-0004gd-V9; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 18:12:34 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 03:12:32 +0900 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Alfred Perlstein Subject: Re: reason 23 why we've moved to linux In-Reply-To: <5328A03A.3000305@freebsd.org> References: <53287821.4040209@freebsd.org> <5328A03A.3000305@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 18:12:36 -0000 from another team member, also a long time freebsd user of decades firefox build bombs because something has hardwired gcc47, which is not installed, so firefox's ./configure bombs testing hello world. Attempting to figure out what has hardwired gcc47 quickly leads down an entire separate /usr/ports/Mk/ file full of the usual garbage, none of which actually says gcc47. Presumably it is somehow inheriting from /usr/ports/lang/gcc's version (as opposed to /usr/port/lang/gcc4[69] -- this machine happens to have gcc46 installed). This is as far as I got before giving up in disgust. Maybe they'll sort it out by the time I care. Or maybe I'll wipe and Ubuntu. essentially, from a user perspective, the ports have become kiddieville, with no testing or seeming adult supervision. if you're just trying to get your work done, freebsd ports have become toxic. randy