From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 17:05:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E704FFB5 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B41C832 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.55] by nm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 17:05:35 -0000 Received: from [217.146.188.154] by tm8.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 17:05:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 17:05:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1358269534; bh=O+mqbJrzvIXf4rTj2CwoREWUun8SSryoyn520I6m88U=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=D6W6IYJMici6o6E1MCkxctSF2Pi2jdzhkBNzU1LRmwwvzpO+oBFUiloX4q7WP+05NymTrdrgHbqTguNYVBwTOCTFbOwayMlsMMr8RN3bzDWceUeP0gXJQ2aiA3tbnrgNdiBXPkgtRJ50cNkhQAFErQl23E/EVmjMImCNH1N/0wE= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 913879.18416.bm@smtp101.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Hib7q9cVM1nqdfkhwkcP519GLkCU_ko.lMQK3vFMoDUQ92X vaRhGlMZK2_dFXkAbu6.UXd5CzlL1sL_.rzuHJE9oXo4zaOJBxbavkavNnSO lSbKd49BQ7S7DS9u6.mJuLyvE51GkIIAI8PgQiMN8LPguWCEYqQLzd2xbggW r3Ht8.ykFEzE_9oceJNqezE1O8qjDRtPiIjdkADOUrd_oPHKvIhBRusPMfHU gs.QC2iQkXdfZCaVmrik4oHkEK1tS4ftrn._kZdjtToindBcDFcRuHyw52lX hEgzAvkmtEEnZF1sCCrjDX1GPdh2s4jPEq.7uLpo9J_egrbEcWyDNtL_NCR0 QGVAT9R3XWuVYv8YxGrQV5OfWJaSQCpiuQaWrJNLJV1rXkw5S_L5hVCUcF3L waaw9KPSIz6LbDC24oqYrmzD2Who.HB_SbspWE4FEaDs- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from [92.231.4.110] (ralf.mardorf@92.231.4.110 with login) by smtp101.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2013 09:05:34 -0800 PST Message-ID: <1358269534.2583.3.camel@q> Subject: Re: Starting the desktop environment doesn't work automatically From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:05:34 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20130114210348.f70f2287.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20130114210348.f70f2287.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:05:40 -0000 On Mon, 2013-01-14 at 21:03 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:54:55 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > If I make mcedit the default editor, could this cause serious issues, > > perhaps if upgrading the kernel and world? > > I'm also using it regularly: > > % echo $EDITOR > mcedit > > No problems so far. The only exception: The editor is not > available when starting in SUM, and /usr (and therefor /usr/local) > is not mounted. In such a situation where mcedit cannot be > made available, /rescue/vi (residing on the / partition) is > the best choice if you urgently need to edit something. > The vi editor even works when terminal capabilities are > not "sufficiently" provided. Thank you, I made it default for my FreeBSD too. > > I don't like vi and similar > > editors. > > You don't need to like vi, but you should know the most > basic actions to use this editor in _worst case_. :-) In the _worst case_ I can handle vi basic actions even with a German keyboard using an "us" keymap ;). Regards, Ralf