From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 26 13:39:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25739106566B for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B898FC0A for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBQDcvXs046784; Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:38:58 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nBQDcvXs046784 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1261834738; bh=LgVpYuP63A7P3tp083i4AcFjeAEe20NaNIEnh5L0T60=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B3611EB.3060306@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S at,=2026=20Dec=202009=2013:38:51=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091129)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Jeremy=20Chadwick=20|CC :=20freebsd-stable@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20php5-5.2.11_1=20Vu lnerabilities|References:=20<4B344459.4020202@ellicit.org>=09=09<4B35FC 4C.7050100@unsane.co.uk>=20<20091226123953.GA8864@icarus.home.lan> |In-Reply-To:=20<20091226123953.GA8864@icarus.home.lan>|X-Enigmail -Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3D pgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D =0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig3F47C4DAF6679DB423B8616C"; b=3eCbn6zxJe0cVN8MZCBK3BFkmNp+SZADA9jHcBiaO0zSOuHw1HEx2TAHGRJYlMNB5 sOYG3E5UbIlWzw6GXZRkjsqpNLhJiBS4FcKqMHofsJNI8gzKfrm5HSM19LOJReOebs W2qCPDj5C56CgToKVpwGdEQyC40SetzSILbUqMBY= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4B3611EB.3060306@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:38:51 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <4B344459.4020202@ellicit.org> <4B35FC4C.7050100@unsane.co.uk> <20091226123953.GA8864@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20091226123953.GA8864@icarus.home.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3F47C4DAF6679DB423B8616C" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: php5-5.2.11_1 Vulnerabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:39:05 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3F47C4DAF6679DB423B8616C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I say this as both someone who does web hosting and codes in PHP. I > often wonder what the point of PHP is given Markup::Perl[3]'s existence= =2E Ooooh... another way of embedding perl into HTML. That makes <... counts= on fingers ...> loads. Not to mention all those solutions employing Ruby or Java/jsp or Python. = And the Google web tools stuff, where you write pure Java and it compiles int= o the appropriate mix of server side Java objects and Ajax enabled web pages. Or the distressingly under-appreciated WebObjects stuff from Apple, which= may have been around a few years but is still pretty revolutionary (although = not free). No -- there are many, many alternatives to PHP. Trouble is, there are ma= ny, many web-monkeys out there that cannot conceive of using anything else. = And if you propose to a client writing a web app in any other language they g= et all bothered because it's "non standard" and because "we can find PHP coders = easily".=20 That's a self fulfilling prophecy if ever I saw one. A lot like proposin= g any other OS than Windows... Now who would do a thing like that? Cheers, Matthew (who thinks HTML::Mason is where it's at...) --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig3F47C4DAF6679DB423B8616C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAks2EfEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyZvwCfRz+D232zELyB9JP42wBIk4hv 8DMAn05rP5CYQmODJ0srYMIzLTwS2Bck =12Jp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3F47C4DAF6679DB423B8616C--