From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 26 19:34:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FC71065685 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from iron1.sfsu.edu (iron1.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A308FC12 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) X-Inbound-SFSU: False X-onepass: IPPSC X-From-SFSU: True X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAAaFY0iC1Apk/2dsb2JhbAC0GA Received: from smtp01.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.100]) by iron1.sfsu.edu with ESMTP; 26 Jun 2008 12:05:28 -0700 Received: from libra.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.238]) by mail05a.sfsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 7.0.3HF378) with ESMTP id 2008062612052707-601 ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:05:27 -0700 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:05:27 -0700 (PDT) From: KAYVEN RIESE To: Martin Tournoij In-Reply-To: <20080626103955.GA28128@rwxrwxrwx.net> Message-ID: References: <20080626103955.GA28128@rwxrwxrwx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MAIL05a/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.3HF378 | February 28, 2008) at 06/26/2008 12:05:27, Serialize by Router on SMTP01/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.3HF378 | February 28, 2008) at 06/26/2008 12:05:28, Serialize complete at 06/26/2008 12:05:28 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stop Adobe Flash Petition X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:34:02 -0000 [coment(s) below] On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, Martin Tournoij wrote: > Sign it here: > > http://www.petitiononline.com/0034655a/petition.html > > The number of Adobe Flash sites are growing, and an increasing > amount of sites will simply cease to function when Flash is disabled > or unavailable. > > I would like to call to all web developers to (re)consider their use > of Flash, while it does have place on the web, it is often used in the > wrong way, on the wrong place, in a badly implemented manner. > > Why I dislike flash: > > o It often adds little or nothing to a website, most things can often > be achieved with either CSS or Javascript (or a combination) which > suffer from much less problems. > > o Flash is not usable, for example it often breaks the back button, > "find in page" does not work, setting font size does not work, and > many more. > > o Browser settings such as font size, enabling/disabled sound in web > pages etc. do not apply to flash, leaving the page's designer, not the > user, in control of the browser. > > o Flash is not accessible, screen readers, braille displays etc. often > have serious difficulty accessing flash pages. > > o Progressive enhancement is difficult to achieve with flash, unlike > for example CSS or Javascript, flash is binary data which interacts > poorly with HTML. > > o Flash is not supported on all operating systems, and only on a very > limited set of architectures. > Maybe I am missing something, but isn't the petition about getting the FreeBSD desktop to be able to view flash sites (I hope so). If I am mistaken, I apologize for my OT spam. I have a bunch of those emails sitting in my box and I am just now bursting to make a comment here. I _really_ hope that some bounty gets paid or something that implies that I will be able to do cvsup or patch or whatever commands to be able to view flash websites. > o Flash is slow, if you do not have a new $1000 PC but a somewhat > older "office PC" flash can be a serious performance hit. > > o There are a number of security issues with flash, and Adobe has > never seemed to quick/concerned to fix them. > Oh dear. This could be the intractable part of the problem for the time being. However, I fail to see how Adobe could continue with this policy, as surely, nobody wants to be cracked (don't say "hacked" hacking is the sound made by highly technical people when their fingers flurry accross their respective keyboards). > o Animation is annoying, I want to access information, not watch a > "cool" animation. > > Sincerely, > The Undersigned > > -- > Martin Tournoij > carpetsmoker@rwxrwxrwx.net > http://www.daemonforums.org > > QOTD: > I would have made a good pope. > -- Richard Nixon > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > *----------------------------------------------------------* Kayven Riese, BSCS, MS (Physiology and Biophysics) (415) 902 5513 cellular http://kayve.net Webmaster http://ChessYoga.org *----------------------------------------------------------*