From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Sun Aug 4 20:10:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2387AB0AEC for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2019 20:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johalun0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-x242.google.com (mail-oi1-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::242]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 461sTg5rDWz3LZX for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2019 20:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johalun0@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-x242.google.com with SMTP id w79so60642081oif.10 for ; Sun, 04 Aug 2019 13:10:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=D4CfIVmKn/EbU+IvtQckpesparRJrYkxpUagxf9cj3c=; b=dDsh5UOig8TeVwhKqYe27JBR/JmnmihmCnfb4TtOX83ONHSDnLQ4cIY223j0RahVf6 RG/3VTrPdJwxwK8dFo92A+NbsoevURwN1U76ea2SaWqmxZnXNZBRCyPEQwugzv9pAYAE Cq9bTqBuIpxfpjU4AYpQVkapMOHfUcCEc5ffeowb7wvIzKYWwgPaogjlQ2/AIbq852bo ezkaO9LTz8eZ9NEePZA7au83rlcVXNMZUhiA2eT8Qng3jlJwmPlQCqNejSiqw4Rv0LZX krv9rjGOH/tC2FvlHDj9//1wI8lFAu58pHfBaoiY9kmm3tW8kSJoE7oZZo4J0vT6Y7GX xIGw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=D4CfIVmKn/EbU+IvtQckpesparRJrYkxpUagxf9cj3c=; b=Ha76Av/4rlGScB7QeV/83IFPMwMA+fjMj97OIFe6/92tZM5A12Z6oSqj3zmQejqeHz zLFQlq4bRdQZIX/4vDsDazJpBviq6njNDFNpXixjp3pknZu8g+SHRFxzjJ6I/I6n1v4y +FopKOzXDEe6SzOuIa3L9RMWBAOH/WFXy9UKFMzn8ZoX0G1zYx5M4ArN5/5R74iOsX7g FYwItJLjdwPPKKwg92sdJ8pVQVTAngjY2kBr2fzALlKnsVkx9Mcc7XcJNrfyVCOIGtdb 4FHfn2ovilS16heYupshNsuj5ii8qFeY4GGFbkTg8/hJCLU70KX8u2A3mHPINvqYfFKF OyeA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVge6EkOjVeplGRQGoUraecevy/WfYfM1XtGkgutFdRQYdqkvid Ncff4AeF39cWRhQSPUSxEVauYYXdxbdTovtrIv0GNfxuU0o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwpPsgmRLb6Kx4MlXSk/nNpbLuqaI+L1Lk0ZBHlHbfZn7/v8BbYFc4spxtb8kJ9S8irl3FyOfD7iGsY+GiDZvE= X-Received: by 2002:aca:af55:: with SMTP id y82mr8901468oie.172.1564949446509; Sun, 04 Aug 2019 13:10:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <76518114-183b-2b67-643d-d7f8833b4fd1@daemonic.se> <1ry2-rf1d-wny@FreeBSD.org> <20190804183957.GA2933@lain.fritz.box> In-Reply-To: <20190804183957.GA2933@lain.fritz.box> From: Johannes Lundberg Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 13:10:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Graphics Team Meeting Minutes To: raichoo Cc: x11-list freebsd X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 461sTg5rDWz3LZX X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=dDsh5UOi; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of johalun0@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::242 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=johalun0@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.97 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.992,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-x11@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[9]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.4.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.977,0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (2.34), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.07), asn: 15169(-2.46), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2019 20:10:49 -0000 On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:42 AM raichoo wrote: > On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 11:12:23AM -0700, Johannes Lundberg wrote: > > Toxic attitudes ain't gonna make things move faster. How about joining > the > > meetings and actively participate instead of whining and complaining from > > the sidelines as you always do? > > Sounds great, so let me chime in. > > I'm currently porting my windowmanager over to wayland and I'm doing this > on > FreeBSD. In the process I've hacked together all parts of the graphics > stack > to get things working (self built Xwayland, because the shipped version was > segfaulting on me), self built epoll shim, wlroots etc. It works > surprisingly > well and maybe some of this could be useful for upstream (if only for, > "I've > tested this and it works, can someone else confirm this?") > I would really like to help to improve wayland support on FreeBSD, I'm > certainly > not an expert but maybe I contribute some useful things. > Thank you! Any contribution is highly appreciated. Wayland stuff is still a bit shaky but it's pretty high on our priority list. We will update the Wayland Wiki page soon with some tutorial and other necessary info (it's very outdated). If you have any patches you want to share you can create PR on https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop or post on this mailing list / gitter / irc. > So, how and where are these Team Meeting minutes taking place? Are there > any > preliminaries? Sorry if these questions apear to be more or less > uninformed I've > sort of learned about the existance these meetings via this thread and was > hoping to add are more positive vibe. > Thanks for the positive vibe :) We have a biweekly video call and publish meeting minutes soon-ish after. Sometimes we drop the ball since everyone is pretty swamped with other stuff and all this work is voluntarily. In this case, a friendly (non-toxic) reminder is welcome. We don't post any preliminaries. Team's open discussions mostly take place here https://gitter.im/FreeBSDDesktop/Lobby > On a sidenote, I was also thinking about organizing a hackathon next year > in > Bielefeld Germany, hoping to bring together some more people who maybe > want to > hack on better wayland support, apart from other BSD things. > That sounds awesome! I can't join personally but I hope you'll arrange it. > Kind regards, > raichoo > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >