From owner-freebsd-small Wed Jan 13 22:24:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25573 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:24:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25547; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:23:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.57.187]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA39D3; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:22:49 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <89416.916262346@zippy.cdrom.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:30:32 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: Trinux (+ a proposal) Cc: Andrzej Bialecki , picoBSD , jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 13-Jan-99 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> Well, since kzip has been fubared by the ELF transition, do we have a >> suitable replacement anyway for the unpacking? Or am I thinking in the >> wrong unpacking terms? > > You're thinking in the wrong unpacking terms - we don't want to > compress binaries since it makes their contents impossible to share. OK noted, so you mean unpacking as in preparing the stuff for actual use, e.g. placement/creation of dirs and files. >> OK, dumb remark mayhaps, but what would be the benefit of using >> different >> scripting languages for every nook and cranny in the OS? I mean, we're >> using Forth in the new boot{loader|strapper|configuration} and then we >> are > > It's not sufficient to the task. Forth is a fine language for small > boot programs and such, but I wouldn't want to write complex UIs or > anything else in it. And I would have been happy to use TCL in the > boot blocks instead if I'd had a couple of hundred K to play with > rather than just 20K or so. :) Well, does the full TCL 8.1 (which I am guessing you are wanting to use) fit into the space you have or are we going to have to play Quake-axeman on the TCL distribution? >> Jordan, you are referring to the shrink/grow abilities such as VxFS and >> JFS them have (JFS can only grow I thought)? > > No, I'm just referring to a resizable MFS. Don't get carried away. :) Well, that's basically the same as what VxFS and JFS do, they can grow whenever ye need more space and shrink (VxFS) when space gets freed. >> Sorry, RTLD? Real-Time LoaDer? > > Run-time. UTSL. :) I know, I know, but given the fact that I am currently persuing/reading about every piece of the whole OS (including ports et al) forgive me for not remembering everything at this stage of source newbie =) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven A veil of smoke is what I am, asmodai(at)wxs.nl I wait and I wait... Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message