Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2020 19:05:52 +0000 From: Chris Rees <crees@FreeBSD.org> To: Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, Lars Engels <lme@freebsd.org>, "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] BSD-Licensed Combinatorics library/utility Message-ID: <207F328C-0557-4BA5-9C1D-12BFB227F8D4@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <A263E747-779D-4CBE-B605-EFB1FA1F5BFF@freebsd.org> References: <51AD9B50-9488-45CE-878F-EE97F6914E49@freebsd.org> <201912121119.xBCBJ2Jo017249@fire.js.berklix.net> <20191212130825.GJ5400@e.0x20.net> <CANCZdfpmyk23w0RmYiVOHx3Qzga_H9G=uXypPgGkktwQqX_%2B%2Bg@mail.gmail.com> <72753F50-8810-43C1-BDDD-E541278A146F@cschubert.com> <F436A4E2-5657-4B23-A574-2D66EA68A240@freebsd.org> <17EEA2EB-D963-449F-81FE-E18DD62B2BF6@bayofrum.net> <A263E747-779D-4CBE-B605-EFB1FA1F5BFF@freebsd.org>
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On 5 January 2020 18:57:02 GMT, Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org> wrote: > > >> On Jan 5, 2020, at 09:26, Chris Rees <crees@bayofrum.net> wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Devin, >>=20 >> There are many examples where utilities have moved from ports to >base- portsnap being one I can think of. >>=20 >> I don't think that ports is really a dead zone for software- pkg >install -y cmb takes around seven seconds, and I would struggle to >imagine that anyone uses a system with no ports installed. >>=20 >> The argument would obviously change if you wanted to use it in >bsdinstall or similar- is that why you're frustrated here? >>=20 > >1. Build option survey for testing different combinations of options >when building base >2. Building ports built with different combinations of options when >available > >Both of those situations may preclude having any packages installed. We use devel/ccache with poudriere all the time- it's not really a big prob= lem. Having it in ports has the massive advantages that it becomes available for= all versions of FreeBSD, as well as having immediate bugfixes and the most= up to date version available at all times. Granted, it does appear pretty mature... but given that no one needs to app= rove a port being added (and there are many people who would gladly make on= e), it would definitely be the best first step to get wider exposure more q= uickly. Even while the decisions on importing are ongoing, you could stick it in a = port today. "Ports are just as much a part of the OS as base". Chris --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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