From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 12:05:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F99E106566C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:05:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-current@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8E28FC2A for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:05:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1MsbSi-0001EA-QJ for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:05:44 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:05:44 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:05:44 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:05:32 +0200 Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <4AC141B0.4090705@delphij.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090928) In-Reply-To: Sender: news Subject: Re: [PATCH] Shutdown cooloff feature X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:05:46 -0000 Robert Watson wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, Xin LI wrote: > >> I'm not sure if anyone would find this useful: > > Along similar lines, if we're looking at frequent admin errors: I've > noticed an increasing number of people using "reboot" rather than > "shutdown -r NOW" on the basis that on Linux (and perhaps other > systems), reboot gives a clean application shutdown. I wonder if we > should be making a similar change -- a lot of people may be risky data > corruption/loss due to unclean application shutdown as a result of that > misunderstanding. There is difference between reboot and shutdown -r now??? Reading the man pages, it doesn't look so. What is the difference? Does shutdown -r call rc.d scripts with "stop"?