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Date:      Thu, 08 Oct 1998 09:22:36 +0200
From:      sthaug@nethelp.no
To:        archie@whistle.com
Cc:        mike@smith.net.au, andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: How to send data between two network cards directly?
Message-ID:  <29258.907831356@verdi.nethelp.no>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:01:28 -0700 (PDT)"
References:  <199810080001.RAA23283@bubba.whistle.com>

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> > You can't do this.  Ethernet implicitly involves several protocols, 
> > each with their own overheads and error correction.
> 
> Not true.. Ethernet is just synchronous HDLC with a 32 bit checksum.
> You can send and receive raw Ethernet frames using bpf(4).

This may be splitting hairs, but: 10 Mbps Ethernet is *not* like
synchronous HDLC, because it has a "start bit" (the preamble). 100
Mbps Ethernet is different - this is more like a synchronous serial
line in that there's signal on the cable at all times.

Also, half duplex Ethernet uses CSMA/CD, which is definitely what I
would call a protocol (implemented in hardware).

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no

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