From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 27 04:21:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58FD16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:21:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B1D43D2D for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:21:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by april.chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF0C117BA for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 00:16:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <426F12F7.8080808@chuckr.org> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:20:07 +0000 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sparc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: installing from ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:21:09 -0000 Doing this again, I just want to know, if one doesn't happen to have the menus totally memorized, then is it possible to install from teh VGA screen & and keyboard, or do you need a serial line? I actually (last time I asked this) had someone insist that many folks have the menu's in their heads. Anyone who thinks that way has no business writing UI material, no matter if it's true or not. If you need a serial port, why in heck doesn't the documentation say so? Are you embarrassed, or is someone laughing at each and every person (at least every newbie) who comes down the pike, that you're going to catch another sucker. Admit it if the system won't allow it. It's been this way now for a great long time, so saying "it'll be fixed RSN" is an egreious fib. We're losing more folks from frustration than we're gaining from lying to folks (how is that good, now?) I have checked over the docs very carefully, they don't tell you you are going to need the serial port for anything more than using ppp, or catching the boot process. The fact that the menu's require the use of non-functional arrows to work, is just silly.