Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:01:34 -0700 From: Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Release Date Challenge, plus other stuff the project needs Message-ID: <20121212170134.GA27662@hemlock.hydra> In-Reply-To: <ec18f51e396d76daab520d5a15190f57@foto.nl1.torservers.net> References: <ec18f51e396d76daab520d5a15190f57@foto.nl1.torservers.net>
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--FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 01:52:04AM -0500, Anonymous wrote: > We, the users of FreeBSD, *do hereby challenge* the FreeBSD project > to meet its future release dates. I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for 9.1-RELEASE to be finalized. I desperately want it as soon as possible for a laptop currently running such a piece of shit OS (Debian -- used to be good, but after half a dozen years away it went significantly downhill) that I'm about ready to pull out my hair. It needs hardware support not available with FreeBSD until now, and I want stable, -RELEASE software on it to suit my needs. That having been said, I don't "challenge" the FreeBSD project to meet future release dates. This isn't Ubuntu; it's FreeBSD. I'd rather they get it *right* than get it out *quickly*. Hell, even before I stopped using Debian, when I thought it was still good, there were signs of its impending slide into crappiness -- and they all happened around the time the Debian project started trying to meet release dates on a faster development schedule. No . . . I don't want to push the FreeBSD core team to sacrifice the things that make FreeBSD valuable just to meet arbitrary release date guesstimates. Screw that. >=20 > Why: Because the FreeBSD project has not met a significant number > of its release dates. It's an apalling state of affairs and makes > you, the project, look silly. Business and personal users plan > elements of their schedules, budgets and capabilities around OS > updates. And the continual failure of FreeBSD to deliver causes us > to have no alternative but to look at our bosses and just shrug. > We've taken to padding it out a week, two weeks, a month, two > months... just to cover the random slippage. Since there seems to > be no public statements about this ongoing situation, we might as > well pad it to a quarter or a half... FreeBSD's already a half > behind on status reports. Here you make a point I'd like to see addressed. I wish we had a simple way to find out what's going on with the wait. That doesn't mean I want anyone prioritizing speed over quality, though. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlDIuG4ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVVewCfTL3wGToL2T3Tiy5BnV6J96TB SRMAoM1y2pNnAZ73jvhmpXreMqfcvyQN =kXWe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5--
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