From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 30 22:54:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA04229 for current-outgoing; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:54:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.webspan.net (mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA04222 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:54:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA16553; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 01:53:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.webspan.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA02498; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 01:53:46 -0500 (EST) To: Mark Crispin cc: Joe Greco , terry@lambert.org, j@uriah.heep.sax.de, roberto@keltia.freenix.fr, current@FreeBSD.org, scrappy@ki.net From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: /var/mail (was: re: Help, permission problems...) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:14:11 PST." Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 01:53:46 -0500 Message-ID: <2495.846744826@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mark Crispin wrote in message ID : > Has it ever dawned on any of you that a user on a FreeBSD system just might b > e > getting the mail spool via NFS from a different flavor of UNIX, one that uses > the .lock files instead? Probably not, but it's my job to think about such > things and make sure that they work, because golly gee, people do such things No, probably because without NFS locking, it will have a tendancy to destroy mail. Ergo, it isn't done :-) NFS for e-mail is evil and people who do it should be shot. POP and IMAP are perfectly reasonable ways of collecting e-mail (and yes, I do know what the subject of this discussion is/was). Some people who have a mad love for /usr/bin/mail want /var/mail NFS mounted from the mail box to the shell box. I tell them to use fetchmail. Problem solved. To be perfectly honest, I don't see the problem here ... make the locking method an option, just like elm does. No more problem. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info