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Date:      Sat, 27 Aug 2011 10:59:03 +0100
From:      "Robert N. M. Watson" <rwatson@freebsd.org>
To:        Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@MIT.EDU>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Removing Giant from VFS in 10.0 (was: Re: skipping locks, mutex_owned, usb)
Message-ID:  <DBD3B7B0-0172-4941-956F-BF210810A6A4@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.GSO.1.10.1108262140240.1411@multics.mit.edu>
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On 27 Aug 2011, at 02:43, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011, Robert Watson wrote:
>=20
>> We also need to start announcing this early in the 10.0 cycle so that =
third-party file system developers for FreeBSD -- especially anyone =
interested in things like OpenAFS and Fuse, can do appropriate updates =
there as well.
>=20
> For what it's worth, OpenAFS already passes MNTK_MPSAFE /* solid steel =
*/, with what I expect is nearly-correct locking.

Excellent!

(Although I guess OpenAFS internally has the moral equivalent of a Giant =
lock that protects its own structures, but that's an entirely =
independent problem that the OpenAFS community is already interested =
in?)

Robert=



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