From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 13:15:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FBC4618; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 13:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16EE4770; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 13:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.84 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Yf6rk-000IvQ-6M; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 16:15:00 +0300 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 16:15:00 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Gleb Smirnoff Subject: Re: svn commit: r281129 - head/etc Message-ID: <20150406131459.GM23643@zxy.spb.ru> References: <201504060132.t361WRVe090234@svn.freebsd.org> <55226ED7.2010007@citrin.ru> <20150406125706.GY64665@glebius.int.ru> <20150406130652.GI74532@zxy.spb.ru> <20150406130944.GZ64665@glebius.int.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20150406130944.GZ64665@glebius.int.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Anton Yuzhaninov X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 13:15:02 -0000 On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 04:09:44PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 04:06:52PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > S> On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 03:57:06PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > S> > S> > On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 02:32:39PM +0300, Anton Yuzhaninov wrote: > S> > A> On 04/06/15 04:32, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: > S> > A> > Log: > S> > A> > Switch russian login class to UTF-8 > S> > A> > > S> > A> > S> > A> UTF-8 is still has problems in FreeBSD. > S> > A> > S> > A> E. g. try to sort file with lines (with ru_RU.UTF-8 locale) > S> > A> > S> > A> $ cat > ttt > S> > A> Ú > S> > A> £ > S> > A> Ö > S> > A> Å > S> > A> Ctrl+d > S> > A> $ sort ttt > S> > A> Å > S> > A> Ö > S> > A> Ú > S> > A> £ > S> > A> > S> > A> This order is wrong. > S> > > S> > This is known. The problems of staying w/o UTF-8 today overweight problems > S> > of switching to UTF-8. > S> > > S> > And hopefully, the switch will motivate someone to do the collation :) > S> > S> Why you need broken somewehere (and broken backward compatibility)? > S> Why you don't just adding new login class (russian_utf8)? > > Right now we've got broken compatibility with the rest of the world. We is not Windows? We don't use UTF-16? What about you talk?