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Date:      Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:54:06 -0700
From:      Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
To:        David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com>
Cc:        alanbryan1234@yahoo.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, julian@elischer.org, "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD on Intel Macs?
Message-ID:  <43C67B9E.7030306@samsco.org>
In-Reply-To: <3e1162e60601120748p55e6d77cib782917714c75afb@mail.gmail.com>
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David Leimbach wrote:
> On 1/12/06, Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> wrote:
> 
>>M. Warner Losh wrote:
>>
>>>In message: <3e1162e60601111405x59e7e70dyf57c74b01e888e8a@mail.gmail.com>
>>>            David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> writes:
>>>: On 1/11/06, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> wrote:
>>>: >
>>>: > alan bryan wrote:
>>>: >
>>>: > >I read that the new Intel (x86) Macs use EFI rather
>>>: > >than the traditional PC Bios to boot up.  I'm
>>>: > >interested in using one of these to multiboot OS X and
>>>: > >FreeBSD and am wondering if it is yet known to work or
>>>: > >not.  Do any changes need to be made to FreeBSD or
>>>: > >should it work out of the box? Thanks for any insight
>>>: > >and I know that it may be impossible to fully answer
>>>: > >until people get their hands on the hardware but I
>>>: > >just wanted to start thinking about the possibilities.
>>>: > >
>>>: > >
>>>: > well if they can boot Darwin I'm sure they can be hacked to boot FreeBSD.
>>>: > It would probabty require a different bootloader binary.
>>>:
>>>:
>>>:
>>>: I don't see what booting Darwin has to do with booting FreeBSD.
>>>:
>>>: However, since FreeBSD boots on IA64 using the FreeBSD bootloader for IA64,
>>>: I *hope* it won't be much work to port whatever changes that requires to
>>>: IA32.
>>>
>>>Assuming any DRM or copy protection that apple puts in place allows US
>>>to put a boot loader there in the first place.
>>>
>>>Warner
>>
>>GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>
>>Please stop the absolutely baseless conjecture.
> 
> 
> FYI, the entire first paragraph of the wikipedia article on EFI is
> pretty much a bunch of crap.  At least they flagged it for not being
> neutral.  There's so much misinformation on the www.  Wikipedia's like
> a piece of flypaper for it sometimes.
> 
> Dave

All I can say to that article is.... wow.

Scott




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