From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 12 15:54:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1365416A41F for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:54:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD67B43D81 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:54:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0CFs401033748; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:54:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <43C67B9E.7030306@samsco.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:54:06 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051230 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Leimbach References: <20060111212605.79848.qmail@web34104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43C57A7A.3080802@elischer.org> <3e1162e60601111405x59e7e70dyf57c74b01e888e8a@mail.gmail.com> <20060111.234830.49434547.imp@bsdimp.com> <43C674DD.6030506@samsco.org> <3e1162e60601120748p55e6d77cib782917714c75afb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3e1162e60601120748p55e6d77cib782917714c75afb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: alanbryan1234@yahoo.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, julian@elischer.org, "M. Warner Losh" Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Intel Macs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:54:25 -0000 David Leimbach wrote: > On 1/12/06, Scott Long wrote: > >>M. Warner Losh wrote: >> >>>In message: <3e1162e60601111405x59e7e70dyf57c74b01e888e8a@mail.gmail.com> >>> David Leimbach writes: >>>: On 1/11/06, Julian Elischer wrote: >>>: > >>>: > alan bryan wrote: >>>: > >>>: > >I read that the new Intel (x86) Macs use EFI rather >>>: > >than the traditional PC Bios to boot up. I'm >>>: > >interested in using one of these to multiboot OS X and >>>: > >FreeBSD and am wondering if it is yet known to work or >>>: > >not. Do any changes need to be made to FreeBSD or >>>: > >should it work out of the box? Thanks for any insight >>>: > >and I know that it may be impossible to fully answer >>>: > >until people get their hands on the hardware but I >>>: > >just wanted to start thinking about the possibilities. >>>: > > >>>: > > >>>: > well if they can boot Darwin I'm sure they can be hacked to boot FreeBSD. >>>: > It would probabty require a different bootloader binary. >>>: >>>: >>>: >>>: I don't see what booting Darwin has to do with booting FreeBSD. >>>: >>>: However, since FreeBSD boots on IA64 using the FreeBSD bootloader for IA64, >>>: I *hope* it won't be much work to port whatever changes that requires to >>>: IA32. >>> >>>Assuming any DRM or copy protection that apple puts in place allows US >>>to put a boot loader there in the first place. >>> >>>Warner >> >>GRRRRRRRRRRRRR >> >>Please stop the absolutely baseless conjecture. > > > FYI, the entire first paragraph of the wikipedia article on EFI is > pretty much a bunch of crap. At least they flagged it for not being > neutral. There's so much misinformation on the www. Wikipedia's like > a piece of flypaper for it sometimes. > > Dave All I can say to that article is.... wow. Scott