From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 4 7: 9:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smople.thehub.com.au (smople.thehub.com.au [203.143.240.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0381C37B5A2; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 07:09:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mckay@thehub.com.au) Received: from dungeon.home (bne52.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.52]) by smople.thehub.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA65725; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 00:09:21 +1000 (EST) Received: from dungeon.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dungeon.home (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18590; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 00:11:08 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from mckay) Message-Id: <200007041411.AAA18590@dungeon.home> To: Stefan Esser Cc: Stephen McKay , Alan Edmonds , Bill Paul , Chris Wasser , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strangeness with 4.0-S References: <200007030749.RAA13446@dungeon.home> <20000704140131.A1734@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20000704140131.A1734@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> from Stefan Esser at "Tue, 04 Jul 2000 14:01:31 +0200" Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 00:11:08 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 4th July 2000, Stefan Esser wrote: >It is just not necessary to disable the optimization, since it >will cost a few retransmissions (and the driver will know that >the frame was not successfully sent and can retry immediately >with the modified buffer setting). On my systems (multiple affected by this sort of thing) I get a long and annoying pause as the card resets and renegotiates speed and half/full duplex with the switch. It is very noticeable and quite frankly not acceptable. I had to hack out all the clever auto fallback because otherwise I would have thrown my computer out the window. That's why I think that setting the default ever-so-slightly slower, but without big hiccups, is better than the current situation. Of course, add a "maximum performance" switch if you want, but no regular user will find fault with a default of store and forward. Stephen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message