From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 17:18:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E84106566B for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4617D8FC12 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so6230315wyf.13 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:18:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=G9sLGMlUf3qDsLeNIKKhSl1IB6cCgeKmQzmiXgbgP+E=; b=o267NmdCXB70CJiLwR6/Kpkvnnr543wXjAvjP8zxDSmc5yJyKsbbRvbwSNFaCpiLbE Tb8iJOaXGiP3QDVqDDi+ag05JmHN9MBoOlh/B/FVv0qrlWmDYKvb1UrARBdhUbMPW+ev IV1iWwbt+HSkHjL3g3xkPyVLHrRigqIo4X234= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ll6oMFLTuoHd/pcyGyR1mOdYCVAZxZzFn0RLloCBNoxapFbKjlS6scBTD++DTGm6IA X6kMJu67o1jgxhFh4lmIzBbp56V1RsLD9m93H3Di6qjEuyApEcY1l0PzCSU4ImI9SkBE dfr1PRunKxxGkP0ZLI4z3UodUWGAI16HUello= Received: by 10.227.182.142 with SMTP id cc14mr5145682wbb.215.1293124723915; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:18:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ernst.jennejohn.org (p578E2D94.dip.t-dialin.net [87.142.45.148]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 11sm5466010wbi.18.2010.12.23.09.18.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:18:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:18:40 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Oliver Fromme Message-ID: <20101223181840.1a8fd266@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <201012231531.oBNFVNG8037456@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <1293116676.2258.9.camel@nsl> <201012231531.oBNFVNG8037456@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.18.7; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Kevin Lo , x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Add a dependency on xclock X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gljennjohn@googlemail.com List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:18:45 -0000 On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:31:23 +0100 (CET) Oliver Fromme wrote: > Kevin Lo wrote: > > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > Kevin Lo wrote: > > > > Sometimes I only installed the xorg metaport x11/xorg on my FreeBSD. > > > > When I quit the X window, there's a message on the console: > > > > > > > > /usr/local/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc: xclock: not found > > > > > > > > I think it makes sense to add dependency on xclock, what do you think? > > > > > > There are dozens of different clocks in ports/x11-clocks. > > > I don't think it makes sense to install one of them by > > > default just because it's mentioned as an example in the > > > xinitrc template. If someone really wants the "classic" > > > xclock (I'm trying to avoid the word "ancient"), he can > > > install it himself. This should be a conscious decision, > > > not an automatism. > > > > > > In my opinion, the xorg meta port already installs many > > > things that most people never need. Personally, I have > > > stopped using the meta port and install only the parts > > > that I need. This is a little more work in the beginning, > > > but it saves time in the long run when keeping things up > > > to date. On my workstation, it cut down the number of > > > packages by about 200 (from 700 down to 500). > > > > You missed the point. Do you have any idea Why flz@ committed > > this patch ? > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2009-January/163841.html > > How is that related to xclock? > Indirectly in that it re-adds xinit, which installs xinitrc, which is what started this whole thread. OP could probably solve the whole dilemma by doing "touch ~/.xinitrc" -- Gary Jennejohn