From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 4 18:52:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C10106566B for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:52:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EB28FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:52:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by QMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QG0Q1c00T0EPchoADJs6wB; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:52:06 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QJs51c0011f6R9u8MJs5K9; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:52:06 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:52:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:52:03 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090804185203.GB4339@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20090706014719.GG11993@lonesome.com> <070151759cb2aacd36a14eb4b318a435@xs4all.nl> <20090716181711.GC90253@comcast.net> <36957fedc04d840595162bb026a8ec62@xs4all.nl> <20090801114833.GA23826@lonesome.com> <83e5fb980908040459k2e533ab4o2d23b229f98b8ace@mail.gmail.com> <4A785310.6070109@FreeBSD.org> <83e5fb980908040921ua7c5ffavff8cee71a9fa7824@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <83e5fb980908040921ua7c5ffavff8cee71a9fa7824@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: status of FreeBSD ports you maintain as of 20090705 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:52:06 -0000 On Tue 04 Aug 2009 at 09:21:07 PDT Diego Depaoli wrote: >2009/8/4 Doug Barton : >> Diego Depaoli wrote: >>> There are too many ports and too few people who care them. >>> IMHO the options are: >>> - decrease the number of ports >> We trim dead/useless ports all the time. >>> - increase the number of =A0volunteers/committers/testers... >> This is the only valid answer for FreeBSD. >How? I think your following comment (even smiled) isn't the right >starting point. > >>> - switch to a multi-level solution (e.g. Archlinux). >> In DiegoBSD you should feel free to use any solution you think is >> useful. :) >Please look at >http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dports/134443 >Ok, I agree, is an useless port, but 3 months without further notices >are enough to demotivate any volunteer. I've been a maintainer since the beginning of this year, and I've yet to have any of my updates go unnoticed for that long. I suspect that your PR is the exception rather than the rule. But it does suggest the need for more guidance on how maintainers can work effectively with the committers. What can we do to help streamline the process? What sort of things create extra, unnecessary work for committers?=20 If a PR doesn't get picked up within a week, it doesn't seem to be showing up on the committers' scans when they're looking for something to do. Perhaps they should fix their scans, but perhaps the maintainer should post a message here, asking for someone to look at the PR? I've seen messages like that in the past, and the response has always been that one of the committers volunteers to take care of it.