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Date:      Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:31:01 GMT
From:      James Raynard <fhackers@jraynard.demon.co.uk>
To:        gpalmer@freebsd.org, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs-cur-2135
Message-ID:  <199606201131.LAA01563@jraynard.demon.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <199606200333.NAA05031@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> (message from Michael Smith on Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:03:08 %2B0930 (CST))

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> > Is there anyone else in the slow lane of the information superhighway
> > who finds the recent series of enormous CTM deltas somewhat annoying?
> 
> (winds sarcasm control to 11)

What was that about sarcasm being the lowest form of wit?

> Gee, yes!  Let's just stop the development of FreeBSD so that these people
> can reduce their mail load!

I'm sorry that the only kind of response people seem to be capable of
is a sneering "what did you expect, get out of the kitchen if you
can't stand the heat".

I am fully aware that keeping up to date with -current involves some
means of getting the source onto my system, and I have been perfectly
happy to ftp down one or two 5-10kB deltas (or the occasional 50-100k
one) while my mail's being delivered. In fact this has worked
extremely well so far and I really appreciate being able to do
this. However, things have been rather different over the past few
days:-

-rw-rw-r--  1 james  wheel   896758 Jun 18 23:06 cvs-cur.2133.gz
-rw-rw-r--  1 james  staff     3838 Jun 18 23:04 cvs-cur.2134.gz
-rw-rw-r--  1 james  wheel  1796061 Jun 20 09:46 cvs-cur.2135.gz
-rw-rw-r--  1 james  wheel     3885 Jun 19 20:36 cvs-cur.2136.gz
-rw-rw-r--  1 james  wheel    14556 Jun 19 20:37 cvs-cur.2137.gz
-rw-rw-r--  1 james  wheel     3322 Jun 19 20:39 cvs-cur.2138.gz
-rw-rw-r--  1 james  wheel   410260 Jun 20 09:48 cvs-cur.2139.gz

I accept that these things are necessary from time to time as part of
building a better and brighter FreeBSD future and am well aware that
running -current, and having commit privileges, is not a free lunch.
Unfortunately I don't have an income at the moment and can't afford to
subsidise British Telecom in this way. I'm aware that there are many
other people who have poor connectivity as well, but I for one will
have to seriously consider giving up on -current if this continues on
a regular basis.

However, I hope we've now turned the corner on this.

> ...and you certainly haven't been contributing to these deltas now
have you?

I most certainly have not been making any multi-megabyte commits.

If you made a CTM delta out of all the commits I've ever made, I'd be
astonished if it came to over 10k.

> (Yes, I wear several hours of sup a week over a slow and laggy modem link,
>  and I _do_ appreciate your work 8)

Thank you.

-- 
James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland
james@jraynard.demon.co.uk



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