From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 21:13:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA66D16A4CE for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 21:13:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346B743D49 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 21:13:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8CLDtuW061110; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:13:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: "M. Warner Losh" From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 12 Sep 2004 14:25:52 MDT." <20040912.142552.83283958.imp@bsdimp.com> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:13:55 +0200 Message-ID: <61109.1095023635@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [BIKESHED] Giving abort(2) a reason X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 21:13:59 -0000 In message <20040912.142552.83283958.imp@bsdimp.com>, "M. Warner Losh" writes: >: Given that we are usually pretty stumped when we get to call abort(2) >: it needs to work without malloc or anything like it and varargs into >: the kernel is not at all in my future. > >Only in malloc. Everywhere else, people have enough state to cope. >Do we really want to have another kernel API just to support malloc >failures? Well, the problem is that practically nothing else works once malloc fails, and people seem to find the lack of visible explanation a problem. syslog() or anything else using varargs is not going to work... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.