From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 22 18:54:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30F58434 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 18:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B01ABD4 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 18:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Alfreds-MacBook-Pro-9.local (c-76-21-10-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.21.10.192]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B93A1A3C20; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 11:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <532DDC51.7030807@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 11:54:09 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randy Bush Subject: Re: reason 23 why we've moved to linux References: <53287821.4040209@freebsd.org> <5328A03A.3000305@freebsd.org> <532DD2EB.1080204@freebsd.org> <532DD64B.9000905@freebsd.org> <532DD978.3010502@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 18:54:12 -0000 On 3/22/14 11:49 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> Honest question, have you been building things from source under >> debian's ports or are you using their version of "pkg"? > the latter Ok then, well then you should be using pkg if you want to do a fair apples to apples comparison. Otherwise you're comparing two different games #1 at "easy mode" vs #2 at "expert" and complaining that game #2 is too hard. > > and i have two 9 systems where i try to use freebsd-update. also a > time-consuming rabbit hole leading nowhere pleasant. e.g. > > # freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.2-RELEASE-p3 > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. > Fetching metadata signature for 9.2-RELEASE from update5.freebsd.org... done. > Fetching metadata index... done. > Inspecting system... done. > > The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed: > kernel/generic world/base world/doc world/games world/lib32 > > The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed: > > Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y > > Fetching metadata signature for 9.2-RELEASE-p3 from update5.freebsd.org... failed. > Fetching metadata signature for 9.2-RELEASE-p3 from update2.freebsd.org... failed. > Fetching metadata signature for 9.2-RELEASE-p3 from update3.freebsd.org... failed. > Fetching metadata signature for 9.2-RELEASE-p3 from update4.freebsd.org... failed. > Fetching metadata signature for 9.2-RELEASE-p3 from update6.freebsd.org... failed. > No mirrors remaining, giving up. That is quite annoying! I don't happen to use FreeBSD update, but honestly posting a log of this as a fresh message to the lists (without the vitriol) might get you some attention. I happened to have a huge problem with the installer, posted about it and no one did anything until I posted a pretty hilarious screencast of me trying to use it while it did everything in its power to do anything BUT partition disks. -Alfred > > randy >