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Date:      Tue, 17 May 2022 18:21:52 +0200
From:      Michael Schuster <michaelsprivate@gmail.com>
To:        Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com>
Cc:        George Mitchell <george+freebsd@m5p.com>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Shy scroll bars
Message-ID:  <CADqw_gLeGGDMW6cpmz-dDAkCuYu0vTbpjVn3WXEDxpjVTcF18Q@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <bc5a74c4e390e1a2d807e9b3e3331959@bsdforge.com>
References:  <bdd3bb04-2b0f-34bb-18c3-0abec1b11328@m5p.com> <bc5a74c4e390e1a2d807e9b3e3331959@bsdforge.com>

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On Tue, May 17, 2022, 18:15 Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> wrote:

> On 2022-05-17 08:27, George Mitchell wrote:
> > Among the "features" that have appeared in Firefox 100 is my least
> > favorite from Linux's so-called Unity interface: in the name of
> > maximizing non-wasted screen space, scroll bars shrink to maybe two
> > or three pixels in width whenever the cursor is not in their vicinity.
> > Sure, this does give a tiny bit more space to other uses, but it means
> > you can't see at a glance where you have scrolled to in a large image
> > or document.  (At least, it's hard for my aged eyes.)  Is there some
> > way to persuade Firefox not to do this?  Thanks for your attention.
> > -- George
> It's not just FF. The Gnome 3+ DE's do the same thing. Makes everything
> slower and harder to accomplish. I'm only answering here, as I looked
> (unsuccessfully) for a solution on the Gnome DE.


I'm repeating what I sent OP in private: look for a way to disable client
side decorations - what you're reporting sounds a lot like that... idea.

HTH, let us know how you fare.
Michael

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>
&gt; maximizing non-wasted screen space, scroll bars shrink to maybe two<br=
>
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&gt; Sure, this does give a tiny bit more space to other uses, but it means=
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&gt; -- George<br>
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