From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 9 18:08:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC094106564A for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 18:08:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from mailhost.m5p.com (ip-2-2-0-2.r20.asbnva02.us.ce.gin.ntt.net [IPv6:2001:418:0:5000::16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7EA8FC1A for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 18:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonderland.m5p.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mailhost.m5p.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q59I8qR2054086 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 14:08:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Message-ID: <4FD39134.7040108@m5p.com> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 14:08:52 -0400 From: George Mitchell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120604 Thunderbird/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <4FD05C16.9040905@FreeBSD.org> <20120607084738.GT85127@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <4FD06CD3.3080602@FreeBSD.org> <20120607095741.GA1361@reks> <4FD07D11.9030002@FreeBSD.org> <20120609011630.GA48866@DataIX.net> <4FD2D102.4070103@FreeBSD.org> <20120609143739.GB67878@DataIX.net> In-Reply-To: <20120609143739.GB67878@DataIX.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mailhost.m5p.com [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 09 Jun 2012 14:08:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 10.100.0.3 Subject: Re: boot menu option to disable graphics mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 18:08:58 -0000 On 06/09/12 10:37, Jason Hellenthal wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 07:28:50AM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: >> on 09/06/2012 04:16 Jason Hellenthal said the following: >>> runlevel support might be a better solution so it does not differ that >>> much from what other systems do and would be easy for people to grasp. >> Patches are welcome, as always. >> > I agree... ;) > > How about generic runlevel support through kenv instead ? I've wondered whether it would be more "BSD-sh" to specify a way to tell init, "Tell /etc/rc to run the scripts listed by rcorder up until we get NETWORKING." (Or SERVERS or whatever dependency you need, or "Stop just before LOGIN".) -- George Mitchell > > > Set runlevel by default to 3 , where just like any other system is > multiuser, and provide support in the rc scripts to look at kenv. While > documenting "runlevel" in init(8)'s man page since that is where most > people look for these things. > > > This way a we could define a while bunch of things around generic > runlevels and if perhaps runlevels ever make it into FreeBSD the support > for them will already exist. > >