From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 28 00:18:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B07188E for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 00:18:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mauzo@anubis.morrow.me.uk) Received: from isis.morrow.me.uk (isis.morrow.me.uk [204.109.63.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469192400 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 00:18:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from anubis.morrow.me.uk (host86-169-240-104.range86-169.btcentralplus.com [86.169.240.104]) (Authenticated sender: mauzo) by isis.morrow.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D4FD450B3 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 00:09:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 isis.morrow.me.uk 9D4FD450B3 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=morrow.me.uk; s=dkim201101; t=1380326981; bh=iL9mkHBDDTDNHpgCCPWHoUpY9DAudzx2i6Yw4fQg15U=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=g5aCFy9XVWtlf+GXcNLRynrylarKk5t0my8KA9m70oWVk2Os3P3IEpxWopuWSyK72 QYphiAY+hYiXFyOb0vmCB0PMZoY2/vThJZ7TTpFeMXVyvTwRoIVG/d9qJTELGcx8ah zTHZj3wnDWf75xccAFCXAD9OAVog4SswQMEcVvdA= X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at isis.morrow.me.uk Received: by anubis.morrow.me.uk (Postfix, from userid 5001) id E533FDD80; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 01:09:35 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 01:09:35 +0100 From: Ben Morrow To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.2-PRE: switch off that stupid "Nakatomi Socrates" Message-ID: <20130928000930.GA42145@anubis.morrow.me.uk> References: <20130921123125.309f30eb@thor.walstatt.dyndns.org> <523D7784.30002@FreeBSD.org> <5246014B.70908@gmail.com> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720FC01B09@LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <52460D3F.304@gmail.com> X-Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.stable User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 00:18:15 -0000 Quoth David Demelier : > > I personally think (but you may totally disagree with) that an operating > system *is* an operating system. And I really hate easter eggs or > anything else not serious being integrated into the system. I think > about a new user installing FreeBSD 9.2, I would not imagine his > reaction front of this kind of "tribute" or whatever you call that. For > me it stands for "that's not serious, it looks like a toy". Personally I thoroughly approve of a joke every now and then, as long as it doesn't get out of hand. It reassures me there are actual human people working on this who care about what they're doing, rather than some faceless humourless corporation only interested in profit margins. This in turn reassures me that standards will be kept high and bugs will be taken seriously, because that's what people who care do. > Fortunately now it's just a "version" but I would really not imagine > when the screen was looking with the "tribute" loader_logo. While I like the idea of release names in general, I think it's important not to make them more prominent than the real version numbers. I've had to deal with Ubuntu users (I know very little about Ubuntu) in other open-source contexts, and they tend to talk about 'hardy heron' or 'constipated koala' or what-have-you, which just leaves me thinking 'yes, but which is *more recent*?'. So I might rather the default version string was something more like 'FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE (Nakatomi Socrates)'. Ben