From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 31 01:00:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C10316A420; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:00:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nate@root.org) Received: from www.cryptography.com (li-22.members.linode.com [64.5.53.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7E143D45; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:00:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nate@root.org) Received: from [10.0.0.53] (adsl-67-119-74-222.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [67.119.74.222]) by www.cryptography.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k0V10cD8025579 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:00:38 -0800 Message-ID: <43DEB6C5.8090504@root.org> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:00:53 -0800 From: Nate Lawson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Florent Thoumie References: <20060130202806.DCC7916A4CA@hub.freebsd.org> <200601310108.27007.flz@xbsd.org> <43DEAE5A.4010904@root.org> <200601310133.34152.flz@xbsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200601310133.34152.flz@xbsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/cam/scsi scsi_da.c src/sys/dev/usb umass.c usbdevs X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:00:40 -0000 Florent Thoumie wrote: > On Tuesday 31 January 2006 01:24, Nate Lawson wrote: >>I'm not concerned about the revision. I'm concerned about the vendor >>(Generic*) and device name (STORAGE DEVICE*). Why are the *'s needed? > > Seemed common practice reading the other entries. No, that's definitely not it. In fact, the most recent entries should be audited to see if they really need the *'s. This wildcard might overly match the wrong devices. >>(Again, a PR would help track this kind of conversation as shown in >>previous PRs about quirks. Submitters often match way too much.) >> >> >>>Do you want me to create a PR just for tracking purposes? >>>[1] http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20060116193024.GA95183 >> >>That would be nice, especially since some of the requested info is >>missing (dmesg, usbdevs -v). However, if you cited a email in the >>commit msg (maybe SMTP Message-ID) such that we could find it in the >>future, that would probably be enough. I'm not trying to create a >>bureaucracy, just make sure we don't lose information like we used to on >>why a quirk was added in the first place. > > I only mentioned the freebsd-usb mailing list. I'll contact Anders to get > additional details and I (or he) will fill a PR so that we can add it to the > comment. Thanks. > It seems a lot of devices are concerned by the sync cache problem, would it be > harmful to just remove this part of the code or could there be a way to > detect if the device supports it or not? Well, it's important to run SYNC_CACHE in shutdown or possibly when unmounting a filesystem. Otherwise, data could be lost on boot. However, I support adding a USB-specific mechanism that says SYNC_CACHE should only be run on shutdown or device_eject, that way devices that hang after this command is run would still work at runtime. And SCSI devices that support multiple calls to SYNC_CACHE (i.e. most non-USB devs) would still work too. However, the first step is to investigate what windows and Linux do. -- Nate