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Date:      Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:33:48 -0500
From:      gore <koggybsd@comcast.net>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Horrible installer (was: Re: FreeBSD 9)
Message-ID:  <201201232033.48854.koggybsd@comcast.net>
In-Reply-To: <op.v8jrnjgx34t2sn@tech304>
References:  <BLU160-W54C133B8003EF140C41EF7AE860@phx.gbl> <op.v8jnpfzh34t2sn@tech304> <op.v8jrnjgx34t2sn@tech304>

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On Monday 23 January 2012 12:17:33 pm Mark Felder wrote:
> I've recently been presented with new information: namely that RC3
> had sysinstall as an option (I did not know this, and I've been
> reading the lists) and that it was taken away for -RELEASE even
> though it was agreed upon that would not happen for 9.x.
>
>
> I'll crawl under this rock now.

Instead of crawling under a Rock, how about everyone here, ALL of the 
people I've seen in this thread trashing each other; ALL of you, just 
take 60 seconds, take a DEEP breath, and realize we ARE a Community, 
which is a lot like a family in some ways. That means we aren't always 
going to agree with each other, and that we may even want to punch one 
another in the head from time to time, but, at the least, can all of 
you who ARE getting pissed off like that, at LEAST be respectfulof one 
another?

God, it's like being on an Ubuntu mailing list with this thread and I 
WILL NOT stand for that! If I wanted to use shoddy shitty software that 
some asshole Billionaire ripped off from another OS I'd go buy Windows 
and pretend I was being bent over.

I don't personally care if everyone here gets along or anything, but I 
DO care when you start insulting each other over OPINIONS. I'm not 
going to say that stupid cliche about how everyone has one, because I 
think it's cheezy, but damn it this is FreeBSD! The most Stable OS on 
Earth. (If you take into account that you don't need a 40 millon dollar 
cluster to run it and all that).

I've been watching this thread from the start, and I've replied to a few 
posts myself, but it's like, seriously? You have to insult EVERY person 
you don't agree with?

I don't have an issue with insulting morons. I'd make it a sport if I 
could and I LOVE being a condescending jerk sometimes. But, on a list 
such as this, it's making us ALL look bad!

So, to all of you taking part in this thread; Can we turn the bashing 
off for a while? We're FreeBSD users, and I sort of expect... No, I 
EXPECT that we all can act professional!

So, PLEASE, if you have an issue with someone on here, and you want to 
bash them for it... Why not just reply to their email address instead 
of the list itself? work it out! Man up! If your pooter hurts; the 
Vagisil is in the same isle as the Depends. Suck it up!

(Yes, I'm trying to add humor.... I'm one of those people who can't deal 
with certain high stress situations so I try and crack jokes and stuff. 
But yea, I'm a playful person right now because the Oxy kicked in, but 
yea, can we not bash each other over opinions?).

Anyway, I fully understand BOTH sides of what everyone is saying. I 
really do for the most part. I know that bsdinstall has it's issues, 
but don't you think that the FreeBSD team is watching this? You know 
they WILL get it going and fix it up, so just be professional. 

Make a list of EVERYTHING that EVERYONE doesn't like about bsdinstall, 
and get the list to the right people who can do something about it. I 
mean come on.... You HAVE the source.... Write something better, or, at 
least, get the stuff that bugs you to the people in charge. It will be 
OK!

I've been working with BSD since 4.0, do you really think this is the 
first time something happened where people were upset? Jeez guys.... 
They'll work it out and we'll be fine, OK?

-Allen

-- 
BSD user



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