From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Feb 21 9:24:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from shell.monmouth.com (bg-tc-ppp283.monmouth.com [209.191.61.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD17011481 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:24:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pechter@shell.monmouth.com) Received: (from pechter@localhost) by shell.monmouth.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id MAA37204; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:24:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from pechter) From: Bill Pechter Message-Id: <199902211724.MAA37204@shell.monmouth.com> Subject: Net/2 license and CD In-Reply-To: from freebsd-hackers-digest at "Feb 20, 1999 4:11:29 pm" To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:23:24 -0500 (EST) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com Reply-To: bpechter@shell.monmouth.com X-Phone-Number: 908-389-3592 X-OS-Type: FreeBSD 3.0-Stable X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually, you can get Net/2, but it requires a license from SCO which is $100 for non-commercial hobbiest use only (or the Western Electric AT&T license for V7/32V/SysIII/SysV). I believe Kirk is selling a Lite set, but that the PUPS folks are making Net/2 available if you have the correct Western Electric or SCO source license. The PUPS folks have an available archive with the sources for a lot of early UNIX (TM) 8-) varieties... V5, V6, V7, 32V (I think) and the BSD's... Check the PUPS archive for more information on the licenses. http://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/PUPS/ PDP Unix Presevation Society home page. Bill > Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:05:38 +0000 (GMT) > From: Terry Lambert > Subject: Re: Searching an "old" BSD stdio > > > Doesn't Kirk McKusick sell a complete BSD sources set on CDROM? I'd > > check the web page, but it appears to be inaccessible to me at the > > moment. I seem to recall that he required you obtain some kind of a > > license from SCO first, though... > > The settlement agreement between UCB and USL, the terms of which > are not permitted to be disclosed, made the Net and Net/2 > distribution supposedly "illegal". Since you can't revoke a > license granted in perpetuity (which is why Apple still has a > valid license for the UCSD P system that they used to implement > the original "QuickDraw"), DEC has declined to remove it from > their gatekeeper.dec.com archive, as have hundreds of other > licensees (even some institutions with more money than Bill Gates). > > Net was BSD 4.2, and Net/2 was BSD 4.3. > > I believe Kirk sells the 4.4-Lite2 CDROMs. If he sells others, it's > only with proof of a Western Electric or later UNIX source license, > to keep himself out of hot water. > > The specific requirement of the original poster was a BSD 4.2 > stdio that could be linked against, presumably because of either > promisucous reference to the implementation details of stdio, which > have subsequently changed, or because a preexisting object file > for which source is not available. > > If it's an object file, I'm pretty sure that they're screwed, > unless they can contact the vendor of the box for the code; the > stdio subsystem is one that every company thought they could > "make better". > > If it's source, it'll probably have to be rewritten. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message