From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 26 16:00:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F6D1065674 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42F28FC24 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m2QG0FJR005557 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@bunrab.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id m2QG0Ft5005556 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Resent-Message-Id: <200803261600.m2QG0Ft5005556@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Received: from janus.catwhisker.org (janus.catwhisker.org [172.16.8.1]) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m2QFrsxR005478 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:53:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from passiveprofits@yahoo.com) Received: from web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.144]) by janus.catwhisker.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m2QFrOFj063901 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:53:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from passiveprofits@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 62523 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Mar 2008 15:53:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=zu/+f+bC7bfpdbscqQWiHr2IA8OWv11bB66CWthKOvmmlT4Iqj/yiEa4RLcibThP6JvfAmHOypGgZJRieKguwFdiTo+QpqF0rJi8BpT3tow+eEmNa9TryPlBx6sDa3nV6unrBSKaSI3frbyMpb/6jR6RrMEoK31UfjIRKi9TTE4=; X-YMail-OSG: pIvzv9IVM1lNpcR8oGZpUHLeXajx9GyL3MVlJh0hU7KSQ9dgrJSfdWkcuzOeqF9d9wXvJj_EtxXWaQjXIGvtKGTK.v93SQLC7L2HfFLliAjpW.LQZ74- Received: from [80.46.113.101] by web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:53:23 PDT Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:53:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Passive PROFITS To: David Wolfskill In-Reply-To: <20080326144935.GN75023@bunrab.catwhisker.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <655745.62400.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-From: david@catwhisker.org Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:00:14 -0700 Resent-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: Newbie Question - about newbie user support X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:00:16 -0000 --- David Wolfskill wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 07:15:30AM -0700, Passive > PROFITS wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > First post to any FreeBSD list; be gentle! ;) > > > > Where would be the right place to go looking to > > subscribe to a newbie level user-support list? > > Perhaps rephrased 'complete newbie user support > list' > > ... LOL > >... > > We used to have a freebsd-newbies list, but folks > tended to use it for > posts that ought to have gone to freebsd-questions, > with a resulting bit > of confusion. > > At this point, freebsd-questions is my > recommendation for a default > place to post questions about FreeBSD and using it; Thanks for this confirmation. It only seems obvious when you already know the answer! > perhaps we should > consider re-wording the "charter" for -questions to > be less > intimidating. I think you should. This has been my second visit up there. I would likely have tried an install before now, if I'd have thought there be some user support available in 'them thar hills' (sic). As it was, I just decided to go for it anyway, whether there was any user support, or just the manual! I guess I'm not a 'normie', though a 'newbie'! It was that people might not realise this perception that I thought to post mine; you only get a chance at a first impression once, and mine was of the variety "P*ss off - unless you already know what you are talking about". Not friendly, which is quite apposite when considering just how many kind, helpful and friendly responses my first post to this list has engendered! Just a FWIW, anyway. > Naturally, you should be prepared to redirect a > message thread to a more > appropriate (likely, more focused) list -- e.g., if > you have a question > about a specific use of IPFW, the freebsd-ipfw list > wouold likely be > better than -questions. OK - got it. > One suggestion: read through archived posts before > you post. You may > well find what you need without needing to post at > all. OK - got it! ;) > Peace, > david (postmaster, but not really wearing that hat > now) Nice to meet you! :) Best, PP > -- > David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org > I submit that "conspiracy" would be an appropriate > collective noun for cats. > > See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg > for my public key. > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping