From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Mon Nov 27 01:53:06 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD91DF5D35; Mon, 27 Nov 2017 01:53:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 493147F142; Mon, 27 Nov 2017 01:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id vAR1r0v5007519; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 17:53:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id vAR1qwoE007518; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 17:52:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201711270152.vAR1qwoE007518@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: The future of fortune(6) In-Reply-To: <201711261809.vAQI9sAT088610@slippy.cwsent.com> To: Cy Schubert Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 17:52:58 -0800 (PST) CC: Eugene Grosbein , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , "Julian H. Stacey" , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 01:53:06 -0000 > In message <5A1AFD83.8000503@grosbein.net>, Eugene Grosbein writes: > > 26.11.2017 22:59, Cy Schubert wrote: > > > > > Fortune in base is totally indefensible and for that matter even in ports > > > it is. It absolutely has to go. I fully support Benno's effort. > > > > Please don't mix fortune(6) C code with contents of src/usr.bin/fortune/datfi > > les. > > > > The code src/usr.bin/fortune/{fortune|strfile} is valuable and independend of > > exact datfiles > > and there is no reason to remove it from the base as we have no alternatives > > for the task whey solve. > > Putting my Canadian hat on instead of being my frustrated self today: > > I think the way forward is to replace fortune in base with a shell script > to conditionally execute ${LOCALBASE}/bin/fortune and if not found advises YEA!!!!! Someone that actually knows it is suppose to be called LOCALBASE and not a hardcoded /usr/local!! I believe a few dozen of these have slipped in to base over the years. Now where is a virtual phk beer I can send to Cy? > the user to ask their sysadmin to install a fortune port/package. > > I have a revision in to do the removal and plan on creating a series of > ports based on bsdgames. However I'm totally willing to let someone else > take the lead on this. > > I think this is acceptable. > > > -- > Cheers, > Cy Schubert > FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org