From owner-freebsd-current Wed Feb 5 16:37:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA28797 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:37:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28772; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:36:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA10125; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:32:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <32F9261C.2781E494@whistle.com> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 16:30:20 -0800 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Denninger CC: spork , dg@root.com, tqbf@enteract.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Blacklisting and being "asked" to deinstall FreeBSD - you heard that right! References: <199702052323.RAA18464@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Karl Denninger wrote: > > > .... > > Well, the core team just added to that ill will. Deliberately. > > I have just received a voice phone call from one of the core members asking > me to leave FreeBSD, transition our machines off the operating system, > and walk away. Oh damn.. which loonie? if their threshhold for pain is crossed by one irate and worried user then they must have a lot of other pent up frustrations making them that sensitive. I've basically bet my future on FreeBSD, and I'm doing all I can to keep it running and successful. I wish people wouldn't do things like this.. (of course it's always your OPTION to decide to use some other OS, but no one can TELL you to do so, and I hope that all this settles down eventually as a bad memeory) > > Obviously, I will do none of the above. good > > But I thought you should know that the response of the core team is to these > kinds of issues. > > A parallel code track will be online within a few days for those who believe > that THIS kind of response is unwarranted under ANY circumstances. I hope you don't call it XXXBSD but rather FreeBSD "security track" or something... 3 is enough already. CVSUP would be good for this.. hopefully > > -- > -- > Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity > http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service > | 99 Analog numbers, 77 ISDN, Web servers $75/mo > Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ > Fax: [+1 773 248-9865] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal