From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 16:31:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D03139A for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B14D2F4E for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 1DFF8CB8C93; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 10:12:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.135.70.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 10:12:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <63179.128.135.70.2.1420560731.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 10:12:11 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "a jenisch" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 16:31:17 -0000 On Tue, January 6, 2015 3:21 am, a jenisch wrote: > Hi, > > In the process of upgrading one of my systems (FreeBSD amd64, > 9.3-STABLE) I came across the update from gnome2 to gnome 3. > The corresponding entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING says > > ---------- < cut here > ---------- > > 20141119: > AFFECTS: users of x11/gnome2, graphics/clutter and lang/vala > ... > Make a list of the installed ports: > # pkg info > ~/installed-ports-list > > Delete the old and conflicting packages: > # pkg delete clutter gnome-utils gnome-panel gnome-keyring vala-vapigen > \ > guile gcalctool gnome-media libgnomekbd gnome-themes at-spi > # pkg delete gnome-screensaver gnome-applets bug-buddy \ > evolution-exchange evolution-webcal gnome-system-tools \ > seahorse-plugins gnome-control-center > For package users the following lines will be enough: > # pkg upgrade > # pkg install gnome3 > > For ports users should do the following: > # portmaster -a > # portmaster x11/gnome3 > > ---------- < cut here > ---------- > > Up to and including the "pkg delete" entries everything went OK. > > But when I tried to do a "pkg install gnome3" I only got > > # pkg install gnome3 > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > pkg: No packages available to install matching 'gnome3' have been > found in the repositories > # > > The only gnome3-related thing that seems to be available as package > seems to be "gnome3-lite" which clearly is not the full gnome3. > > Even though I normally use portupgrade for upgrading my ports I tried > to run the two portmaster commands given in "UPDATING" but again this > didn't work. > > Just out of curiosity I went and installed a fresh 10.1 System and > tried to do a "pkg install gnome3" there - again gnome3 couldn't be > found as a package; so this seems to be a more general issue. > > > > So here are my questions: > > o) Has anybody else out there experienced similar issues in upgrading > from gnome2 to gnome3? > > o) How can I get gnome3 on my system again? > > o) AFAIK gnome3 is a supported desktop environment under FreeBSD (?). > Are there, besides KDE which I don't like for personal reasons, any > reasonable alternatives providing similar features like Gnome? > > Thanks much in advance for your help, > -ewald On a side note (as I do not know if at all it is applicable to you): I for one just switched away from Gnome 3: in a course of upgrade from FreeBSD 10.0 to 10.1 I was made to "step up" from Gnome 2 to Gnome 3 (successfully in my case - on technical side of it). And after a couple of weeks of frustration of just trying to do what I usually do on my workstation I decided to give up on Gnome. If you are happy with Gnome 3, just junk this my e-mail. Anyway, I asked on this list an advice "from a person not ready to join ipad generation ;-)" what would be decent replacement of Gnome 3. Thanks to everybody for all your advices and suggestions!! I ended up switching from Gnome 3 to mate. I just added mate, leaving everything else as it was (i.e. starting gdm, etc.), and at X login screen I can choose mate. And I work on my workstation happily ever since. As (someone mentioned on this thread) mate is a fork of Gnome. Other options mentioned in advises were (and I tried them too, and each of them fills the bill, mate was just something I was most comfortable with): xfce fvwm i3 lxde KDE (which I disregarded; basically it is the new way of user interaction in Gnome 3 that I can not stand mostly; and KDE 4 is pretty much alike) Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++