From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Wed Mar 31 23:39:45 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869165B4B54 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 23:39:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ambrisko@ambrisko.com) Received: from mail2.ambrisko.com (mail2.ambrisko.com [70.91.206.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9jTX220hz4ng6; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 23:39:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ambrisko@ambrisko.com) IronPort-SDR: Gz51JHr1aZNuXDSAZppAUm+Ry77NCc+7DuvfZ/jk0xlBpNTr3cxHkSlBqArk3V99p9EF8uHixx P+tui9tUgvoF9gbi6lkNlE8IVu7TWRsmc= X-Ambrisko-Me: Yes IronPort-HdrOrdr: A9a23:AF2gAq7DXHGoBx7lkgPXwCbXdLJzesId70hD6mlaQ3VuHPCwvc aogfgdyFvYiCwJXmshhNCHP8C7MBfh3LRy5pQcOqrnYRn+tAKTXeRfxKbr3jGIIUDD38FH06 MIScRDIf32SWN3lMPrpDS/euxQp+Wv1ICNqaPgw2x2TQdsApsQjTtRLgqACEV5SE1nKPMCdK a03cZMqzq+dXl/VK3SbRM4dtPOqNHRmJXtbQRuPW9F1CC1kTiq5LTmeiL44j4iVVp0rosfzQ == Received: from server2.ambrisko.com (HELO internal.ambrisko.com) ([192.168.1.2]) by ironport2.ambrisko.com with ESMTP; 31 Mar 2021 15:57:51 -0700 Received: from ambrisko.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by internal.ambrisko.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 12VNdZoX067822 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 31 Mar 2021 16:39:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ambrisko@ambrisko.com) Received: (from ambrisko@localhost) by ambrisko.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 12VNdYaZ067821; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 16:39:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ambrisko) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 16:39:34 -0700 From: Doug Ambrisko To: Ed Maste Cc: Chris , freebsd-stable stable Subject: Re: Vinum deprecation for FreeBSD 14 - are there any remaining Vinum users? Message-ID: <20210331233934.GA66902@ambrisko.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F9jTX220hz4ng6 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ambrisko@ambrisko.com has no SPF policy when checking 70.91.206.91) smtp.mailfrom=ambrisko@ambrisko.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.99 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[ambrisko]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ambrisko.com]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[70.91.206.91:from]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[70.91.206.91:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.990]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:70.88.0.0/14, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 23:39:45 -0000 On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 10:22:53AM -0400, Ed Maste wrote: | On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 at 15:09, Chris wrote: | > | > I can only state that I use it only occasionally, and that when I do. I | > have had no problems with it. I'm glad that it's there when I need it. | | Thanks for the reply. Can you comment on your use cases - in | particular, did you use mirror, stripe, or raid5? If the first two | then gmirror, gconcat, gstripe, and/or graid are suitable | replacements. | | I'm not looking to deprecate it just because it's old, but because of | a mismatch between user and developer expectations about its | stability. It would be nice if graid got full support for RAID5 alteast I'm not sure how much the others are used for that are not fully supported (RAID4, RAID5, RAID5E, RAID5EE, RAID5R, RAID6, RAIDMDF) according to the man page. I started to hack in RAID5 full support and try to avoid writes if members didn't change. This limits our VROC support. Thanks, Doug A.