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Date:      Thu, 9 May 2002 02:39:58 -0700
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
To:        Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Resolution (Was: Re: The future of perl on FreeBSD)
Message-ID:  <20020509093958.GA36741@elvis.mu.org>
In-Reply-To: <200205090931.g499VgjV094375@grimreaper.grondar.org>
References:  <200205072241.g47Mf0jV002339@grimreaper.grondar.org> <200205090931.g499VgjV094375@grimreaper.grondar.org>

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* Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za> [020509 02:35] wrote:
> 
> So it looks like FreeBSD gets to ditch perl from the OS. I will do this.

Woohoo!

> There are some issues to deal with.
> 
> 1) There are some perl scripts in the base OS that need to be either
>    ditched or rewritten.

Yes.

> 2) The exact method of providing perl to the user base needs to be
>    rounded off. Here are some suggestions for this:
>    a) Rely entirely on the port and leave it at that.
>    b) Install the port at install time in a similar way to the
>       way we currently install XFree86.
>    c) Install a wrapper in /usr/bin/perl that runs the real
>       perl from whereever it is.

b makes the most sense as long as it's optional.

> 3) Fix the ports system such that USE_PERL makes an appropriate
>    dependancy on the perl port, and does not assume perl in the
>    base OS.
> 4) Fix ports that do things like "perl -spi -e '<script>' <files>"
>    to use whatever comes out of the current "sed -[Ii]" discussion
>    instead.

Both points are valid, but fixing can come later, rather than waiting
for 1000s of packages to be fixed, just do the switch, we'll catch
up. :)

> Any _strong_ feelings on any of these? Any volunteers?

Just 'phk' it, people will be forced to clean up.

-- 
-Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org]
'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology,"
 start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.'
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