From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 26 17:28:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C50445AA for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:28:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-f50.google.com (mail-la0-f50.google.com [209.85.215.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A2E8FC0A for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id c1so11066713lah.9 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:28:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QourDp5/BG1WsQFdkV/WJZNpeYg8FXpGbDFfQfRuMfA=; b=VAG4U/ZA47hZ4FVYkRmfJlHl+MvzLECnwEjzPjlL7pvuDqTqbFdCozJBVaF4J6RZGB CCNjSEwO0UxtlkkNJ3ZbWUCBDFWaEHWxOHa+lHRqeDbASxSLHqv+G8XYeL4dhvXoA0Wq vMYWR4fn7dTItNpCnjnfw5ZjhNnSaGaDgumxhLXox7TeUii78dDd8CXMqwAAuTIvdxBJ fAoXMhywQZEdDtk1WJ3wNjsl7pwEvvpid6qByFGBuvd6eLfsRAc16RXdJQFCckClPWBU qG3yHV94SII88JIiqko9VOgo+g5CpRdgYxcesYuANGCpoWcP5OkBY4ATYyrS3o/AAu3T mAdQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.147.103 with SMTP id tj7mr26404095lab.54.1356542906063; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:28:26 -0800 (PST) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.11.165 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:28:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20121226170233.GA1408@faust.sbb.rs> References: <20121225151532.GA1404@faust.sbb.rs> <20121226170233.GA1408@faust.sbb.rs> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:28:25 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NLYhGeJIjTYxfoOq-YsGfJheF30 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 9.1 minimal ram requirements From: CeDeROM To: Zoran Kolic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:28:27 -0000 On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Zoran Kolic wrote: >> Seeing 9.1-RELEASE instead 9.1-PRERELASE >> or 9.1-RC4 is also a bad suprise for me... > > I assume it does not look like release is the lack > of packages. Simply, I installed and compiled from > ports. Making a Release is a well defined process as I read on http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/releng/release-proc.html and it has its precisely defined meaning. If we loose that meaning the process is irrelevant and so the word "RELEASE". Process stands for quality I guess... There are two extremely important sentences imo at the end of this document: "FreeBSD releases must always be reproducible." - this way we get system that behaves exactly the same after some time, this is very important. "Local hacks in the release engineer's environment are not acceptable." - this is what happens now? > Cannot say if it stands on the site as a > decoration, but I have it on desktop and laptop > and found it a serious piece of work. > The point is that I had to install, since I had had > two new computers waiting blank. 9.1-RC3 works just fine as well for some weeks :-) When your computers are not production machines I also recommend this to you Zoran to test RC in order to make RELEASE a better product. What you have now is labeled as RELEASE but it is a decoration. The "RELEASE" will be different from what you have found and installed (I think there are already versions with different tags available). This is really the thing that pushed me away from Linux :-( > If no-one has any idea on the subject, I will just > remove the line in kernel. Hopes are that old > "make reinstallkernel KERNCONF..." still works. Good luck :-) However if you simply want to diable that RAM consuming function there is a switch that can disable it and make install possible..? Best regards :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info