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Date:      Wed, 13 May 1998 23:45:53 -0400
From:      Ted Stein <ted@taki.net>
To:        Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>
Cc:        advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Are we a Political Action Committee ?
Message-ID:  <19980513234553.29881@cheddar.netmonger.net>
In-Reply-To: <199805140255.TAA18952@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Wed, May 13, 1998 at 07:55:52PM -0700
References:  <19980514113345.U320@freebie.lemis.com> <199805140255.TAA18952@rah.star-gate.com>

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On Wed, May 13, 1998 at 07:55:52PM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote:
> My view was personal and it did not involved the group . I did CC the group
> with the hope of inviting the State Attorney to respond not just to me
> but to  the group and to start a discussion. My email was signed by me
> and it did not represent the group's view that should have been
> obvious however I accept the gross interpretation and apologies for 
> that.
> 
> To those who really detested what I did, advocacy  is an art irrespective 
> of how it is implemented there will always be some that hate / love 
> an approach so if you are easily excitable  or offended then perhaps
> this mailing list is not for you. 
> 

Your approach was not the approach I would have taken. In addition, a simple apology would've
sufficed for your actions, rather than an "if you disagree maybe this isn't for you".

> 
> In fairness , we are attempting to define ourselves so mistakes will
> be made along the way and I hope that we can correct them.
> 
> Now the hard part , it is not clear how we can shape up this group
> to do any kind of advocacy . This is mostly due to our culture
> kind of anarchism due to mostly non-involvement .
> 
> Given that perhaps the advocacy mailing list should be a forum to
> discuss ideas on how to conduct or carry out advocacy where it
> really counts, out of this mailing list in an open forum 
> 

This list IS a forum to discuss ideas on how to carry out advocacy. However, going against
Microsoft is not advocating FreeBSD, and attaching a carbon copy of our list does, in fact,
implicate our (as the community) involvement in your actions. Once again, this is not the
approach I would've taken, and an apology would suffice, as most of us disagreed with your
actions; not so much as the idea, but the attaching it to us, and in some cases (as mine) both.

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