Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:11:10 +0930 From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> To: MALCOLM BOFF <Malcolm_Boff@compuserve.com>, freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Debug kernel by default Message-ID: <19990410101110.Z2142@lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <199904091114_MC2-7132-89B6@compuserve.com>; from MALCOLM BOFF on Fri, Apr 09, 1999 at 11:12:41AM -0400 References: <199904091114_MC2-7132-89B6@compuserve.com>
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On Friday, 9 April 1999 at 11:12:41 -0400, MALCOLM BOFF wrote: > I cannot really believe that this is being discussed in a serious > way as a future proposal. While I accept that bugs in the kernel > are notoriously difficult to locate I cannot accept that the majority > of users of FreeBSD really want to have this imposed on them. Have what imposed on them? > I think that this will most certainly give potential business users > the view that the product is in some way *wonky* and to be steered > well clear of. Yes, I think you're right. From now on, rather than try to fix the bugs in the system, we'll just turn the screen blue and print out some meaningless numbers. > What other version of UN*X is shipped with such a feature ! > Would you buy it if it did ?? Yes, I would, but I must be strange. The screenful of numbers obviously sells, so we'll do that. And millions of Microsoft customers can't be wrong: they don't want the bugs fixed anyway. > I am beginning to wonder where FreeBSD is actually going as > a project as some of the things that have been done on the 3.1 > release seem to be moving away from a vein whereby an > "upgrade" becomes the norm and not an "install" as now seems > to be more the case. Perhaps the leaders of the project should > perhaps spend a little more time looking at "questions" for users > who have had or are having problems with 3.1 or even poll us > with what they intend to do next so at least we provide some > input. OK, how about some input then? How would you have done the transition from 2.2.8 to 3.1? What's your objection to having information at hand to diagnose problems you're having? Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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