From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Oct 27 19:24:39 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3C3E4EF34; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 19:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5665E74470; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 19:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3430C2736D; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 19:24:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v9RJOU4K013960; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 19:24:30 GMT (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Ben Laurie cc: Eric McCorkle , "freebsd-security@freebsd.org security" , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Crypto overhaul In-reply-to: From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <13958.1509132270.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 19:24:30 +0000 Message-ID: <13959.1509132270@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 19:29:13 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 19:24:39 -0000 -------- In message , Ben Laurie writes: >OpenSSL includes (and is used for) lots of crypto that is not used in >SSL - since BearSSL targets SSL/TLS only, it can't, presumably, be >used to replace all uses of OpenSSL. Which implicitly raises the question if we really need all the boatloads of crap OpenSSL drags in, or if we would be in a better position with something simpler and saner ? -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .