From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 1 14:42:15 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA01141 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:42:15 -0800 Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (sri.MT.net [204.94.231.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA01136 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:42:10 -0800 Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA15761; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:44:03 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:44:03 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199511012244.PAA15761@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Terry Lambert Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: More nits In-Reply-To: <199511012206.PAA00366@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <1330.815259112@time.cdrom.com> <199511012206.PAA00366@phaeton.artisoft.com> Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ Moving the installation of the boot manager to a different spot on the install menu ] Terry, notice *what* the subject is. It's not about changing how things are done, but *when* things are done. :) > > > > I think you're right. Hmmm. I will have it ask you when you leave > > > > the editor, 'k? What do the others think? > > > > > > I think the whole logical volume device mapping is going to change > > > under devfs. I think it *doesn't* belong in the partitioning tool. > > > > Excuse me?! What does adding a boot manager have to do with logical > > volume device mapping? > > It has to do with what the hell belongs in a partitioning tool, and > writing a boot manager is one of the things that damn well doesn't. That's where your *wrong*. There is no other place to put it. It is something that is *directly* related to the partition, because the MBR tells the *PC-HW* what partition to boot from. [ Irrelevant ranting about fdisk and devfs deleted ] Since *NONE* of this stuff is relevant until *after* FreeBSD is booted, how is at all related to the partition menu? The MBR stuff is necessary for the PC hardware, and once FreeBSD is running it's no longer an issue. > > Terry's off in space again!! :-) > > Hardly. It's Jordan who wants to jam a PC specific, single logical > layer specific *wart* into the nice, clean, system independent fdisk > interface that would otherwise work for AIX, SunOS, OSF/1, and other > OS's so we can *FINALLY* abstract the idiotic, limited, BIOS geometry > dependent DOS partition crap. Huh? Moving where he installs the MBR to a different spot on the menu is hardly adding a *wart* to the slice API. Sit back and breathe a bit and think about what's being said, and forget a little bit about what you want down. They are unrelated, so long posts about what you want that have *nothing* to do with what is being said only confuse. Nate