From owner-freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Thu Aug 18 20:27:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5ECBBEE34 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 20:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 214F21730; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 20:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1baTty-000JwN-0I; Thu, 18 Aug 2016 23:26:58 +0300 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 23:26:57 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Andriy Gapon Cc: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org, Alexander Motin Subject: Re: ZFS ARC under memory pressure Message-ID: <20160818202657.GS8192@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20160816193416.GM8192@zxy.spb.ru> <8dbf2a3a-da64-f7f8-5463-bfa23462446e@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8dbf2a3a-da64-f7f8-5463-bfa23462446e@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 20:27:00 -0000 On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:00:28PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > On 16/08/2016 22:34, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > I see issuses with ZFS ARC inder memory pressure. > > ZFS ARC size can be dramaticaly reduced, up to arc_min. > > > > As I see memory pressure event cause call arc_lowmem and set needfree: > > > > arc.c:arc_lowmem > > > > needfree = btoc(arc_c >> arc_shrink_shift); > > > > After this, arc_available_memory return negative vaules (PAGESIZE * > > (-needfree)) until needfree is zero. Independent how too much memory > > freed. needfree set to 0 in arc_reclaim_thread(), when arc_size <= > > arc_c. Until arc_size don't drop below arc_c (arc_c deceased at every > > loop interation). > > > > arc_c droped to minimum value if arc_size fast enough droped. > > > > No control current to initial memory allocation. > > > > As result, I can see needless arc reclaim, from 10x to 100x times. > > > > Can some one check me and comment this? > > You might have found a real problem here, but I am short of time right now to > properly analyze the issue. I think that on illumos 'needfree' is a variable > that's managed by the virtual memory system and it is akin to our > vm_pageout_deficit. But during the porting it became an artificial value and > its handling might be sub-optimal. As I see, totaly not optimal. I am create some patch for sub-optimal handling and now test it.